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  • sonofisis
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    #81
    Originally posted by ANTONIM

    bull****.
    the argument was he fought the champ instead of then number 1 welter,kostya was champ at 140.

    next
    Can you please prove that Kosta Tszyu persued a match with Floyd Mayweather? Floyd wasn't Tszyu's mandatory, he was Gatti's and Floyd even said if the Gatti fight didn't go through, he'd fight Tszyu. After he beat Gatti, he wanted Hatton. Stop lying all the time, you people are sickening. Tszyu was the champ like Mayweather's the champ at welter. Why didn't Tszyu fight Mayweather? Do you have any evidence that he wanted to?

    These questions are crazy simple, and if you can't answer them, you must be even more simple. Also, Baldy WAS the #1 Welter! Judah was the previous undisputed champ.

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    • crillz
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      #82
      Originally posted by sonofisis
      Resume = career accomplishments, end of story. If he wanted to know who fought the better opposition (win or lose), then he should have used the word "opposition" instead of "resume" for a poll question.
      to who? to you? you doing the same hipocritical **** that you accusing the other homeboy of doing with Margarito because you trying to make Floyd out to seem like just because he won titles in 2 more weight classes he's better but you completely ignore the fact of who he has beaten for his belts, he didn't fight the fights nor opponents Trinidad fought to earn his championships, like Bernard and Monzon(Bernard didn't break no mother****ing record of Monzon, Monzon was UNDISPUTED champion and defended the crown 14 times, Bernard only had a piece of the titles and built 20 off that), Tito beat 4 Gold Medalists of the Olympics fam don't you get it? 3 of them were undefeated world champions of their division when he dethroned them.. Tito did "the world awaits" 9 years ago, you want to talk career accomplishments, right? then Tito STILL surpasses Floyd even with those 2 losses, he lost to 2 ring generals 1 of which caught him at the worst time he could possibly catch him and is also the dirtiest fighter in the last 7 years of Boxing and the other has basically an unbreakable guard, for a fighter like Trinidad who really didn't even want to face him, he just did what his father and team told him to do it's pretty hard to stand up for that, Winky didn't even PHASE Trinidad..

      Mayweather on the other hand has yet to beat another undefeated world champion since Diego Corrales(R.I.P), Trinidad beat the better opposition and won belts in 3 different weight classes, he beat the person Floyd built his whole fame off of and put the FIRST loss on his record back when Oscar had pop and can move, Trinidad would have crushed ALL 38 opponents Floyd has faced WHEN FLOYD FACED THEM by KO INCLUDING Ricky Hatton so what you saying? you need to stop sticking up for Floyd and be a ****ing man and know when to throw your hat in and say it's true Floyd ain't #1 in this thread.. don't just quote a piece of my post niether if you reply because you ducking the truth by doing so..

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      • deevel79
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        #83
        Originally posted by crillz
        to who? to you? you doing the same hipocritical **** that you accusing the other homeboy of doing with Margarito because you trying to make Floyd out to seem like just because he won titles in 2 more weight classes he's better but you completely ignore the fact of who he has beaten for his belts, he didn't fight the fights nor opponents Trinidad fought to earn his championships, like Bernard and Monzon(Bernard didn't break no mother****ing record of Monzon, Monzon was UNDISPUTED champion and defended the crown 14 times, Bernard only had a piece of the titles and built 20 off that), Tito beat 4 Gold Medalists of the Olympics fam don't you get it? 3 of them were undefeated world champions of their division when he dethroned them.. Tito did "the world awaits" 9 years ago, you want to talk career accomplishments, right? then Tito STILL surpasses Floyd even with those 2 losses, he lost to 2 ring generals 1 of which caught him at the worst time he could possibly catch him and is also the dirtiest fighter in the last 7 years of Boxing and the other has basically an unbreakable guard, for a fighter like Trinidad who really didn't even want to face him, he just did what his father and team told him to do it's pretty hard to stand up for that, Winky didn't even PHASE Trinidad..

        Mayweather on the other hand has yet to beat another undefeated world champion since Diego Corrales(R.I.P), Trinidad beat the better opposition and won belts in 3 different weight classes, he beat the person Floyd built his whole fame off of and put the FIRST loss on his record back when Oscar had pop and can move, Trinidad would have crushed ALL 38 opponents Floyd has faced WHEN FLOYD FACED THEM by KO INCLUDING Ricky Hatton so what you saying? you need to stop sticking up for Floyd and be a ****ing man and know when to throw your hat in and say it's true Floyd ain't #1 in this thread.. don't just quote a piece of my post niether if you reply because you ducking the truth by doing so..

        You'd be wasting your time trying to reason with this guy. Its as if he's in a Floyd cult. He went as far as saying that Floyd's win over Judah was more decisive/impressive than Cotto's.

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          #84
          Originally posted by sonofisis
          Can you please prove that Kosta Tszyu persued a match with Floyd Mayweather? Floyd wasn't Tszyu's mandatory, he was Gatti's and Floyd even said if the Gatti fight didn't go through, he'd fight Tszyu. After he beat Gatti, he wanted Hatton. Stop lying all the time, you people are sickening. Tszyu was the champ like Mayweather's the champ at welter. Why didn't Tszyu fight Mayweather? Do you have any evidence that he wanted to?

          These questions are crazy simple, and if you can't answer them, you must be even more simple. Also, Baldy WAS the #1 Welter! Judah was the previous undisputed champ.
          **** THAT. LIKE I SAID,HE DIDN'T FIGHT THE CHAMP AT 140, A BUNCH OF CONTENDERS,THAT IS ALL,THAT CHAMP AT 147 WAS BALDOMIR,HE FOUGHT HIM,NOT MARGO OR ANYBODY ELSE.DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT SIMPLE LOGIC?
          Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 11-28-2007, 03:55 PM.

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          • sonofisis
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            #85
            Originally posted by deevel79
            He went as far as saying that Floyd's win over Judah was more decisive/impressive than Cotto's.
            When people continuously have to rely on completely making **** up they are among the most loony and fanatical. I've never used to word "decisive" to describe Floyd's win over Judah compared to Cotto's, even if Cotto low blowed him and fought a Judah coming off a year lay off and 2 losses. NEVER.

            I don't trust liars, hence, I don' t trust you to pay me so I'm taking this silly 12K bet out of my sig, since I don't trust you. You are a snake, so nevermind.

            And LMAO @ your lonley ass giving me bad Karma, you people are too insecure for my taste. lol..

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            • sonofisis
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              #86
              Originally posted by ANTONIM
              **** THAT. LIKE I SAID,HE DIDN'T FIGHT THE CHAMP AT 140, A BUNCH OF CONTENDERS,THAT IS ALL,THAT CHAMP AT 147 WAS BALDOMIR,HE FOUGHT HIM,NOT MARGO OR ANYBODY ELSE.DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT SIMPLE LOGIC?
              Are you slow? He beat the number 1 welter weight, you said he didn't. 140 pounds isn't at welter weight, that's jr. Welter weight and Tszyu was the champ, but never persued a fight with Floyd. Floyd called out Hatton, Hatton ran, and Mayweather claimed the welter weight crown. Margarito is a nobody who lost his worthless WBO belt at the first sign of decent opposition. What happened to your ability to comprehend?

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              • crillz
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                #87
                Originally posted by sonofisis
                When people continuously have to rely on completely making **** up they are among the most loony and fanatical. I've never used to word "decisive" to describe Floyd's win over Judah compared to Cotto's, even if Cotto low blowed him and fought a Judah coming off a year lay off and 2 losses. NEVER.

                I don't trust liars, hence, I don' t trust you to pay me so I'm taking this silly 12K bet out of my sig, since I don't trust you. You are a snake, so nevermind.

                And LMAO @ your lonley ass giving me bad Karma, you people are too insecure for my taste. lol..
                why you avoiding my posts dogz? I'm getting directly at you with the seriousness you looking for, no biasness here yet you decide to respond to those whom you render inscure and bias, you make no sense yo..

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                • JoartCC
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  Notable opponents:

                  Tito
                  Hector Camacho
                  Oba Carr
                  Pernell Whitaker
                  Hugo Pineda
                  Oscar Delahoya
                  David Reid
                  Fernando Vargas
                  William Joppy
                  Bernard Hopkins
                  Ricardo Mayorga
                  Winky Wright
                  Yory Boy Campas

                  Floyd
                  Genaro Hernandez
                  Angel Manfredy
                  Diego Corrales
                  Jose Luis Castillo
                  Chop Chop Corley
                  Gatti
                  Judah
                  Baldomir
                  Delahoya
                  Fake Floyd DUCKED the best.

                  Tito FOUGHT the best.

                  That is all that needs to be said.

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                  • deevel79
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by sonofisis
                    When people continuously have to rely on completely making **** up they are among the most loony and fanatical. I've never used to word "decisive" to describe Floyd's win over Judah compared to Cotto's, even if Cotto low blowed him and fought a Judah coming off a year lay off and 2 losses. NEVER.

                    I don't trust liars, hence, I don' t trust you to pay me so I'm taking this silly 12K bet out of my sig, since I don't trust you. You are a snake, so nevermind.

                    And LMAO @ your lonley ass giving me bad Karma, you people are too insecure for my taste. lol..
                    No need to withdraw from the bet. I am a man of my word. Whats a matter? Getting nervous?

                    U damn right i gave your Severe, delusional, Nuthugging ass bad karma. U act like u dont deserve it or something!

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                    • sonofisis
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by crillz
                      to who? to you? you doing the same hipocritical **** that you accusing the other homeboy of doing with Margarito because you trying to make Floyd out to seem like just because he won titles in 2 more weight classes he's better but you completely ignore the fact of who he has beaten for his belts, he didn't fight the fights nor opponents Trinidad fought to earn his championships, like Bernard and Monzon(Bernard didn't break no mother****ing record of Monzon, Monzon was UNDISPUTED champion and defended the crown 14 times, Bernard only had a piece of the titles and built 20 off that), Tito beat 4 Gold Medalists of the Olympics fam don't you get it? 3 of them were undefeated world champions of their division when he dethroned them.. Tito did "the world awaits" 9 years ago, you want to talk career accomplishments, right? then Tito STILL surpasses Floyd even with those 2 losses, he lost to 2 ring generals 1 of which caught him at the worst time he could possibly catch him and is also the dirtiest fighter in the last 7 years of Boxing and the other has basically an unbreakable guard, for a fighter like Trinidad who really didn't even want to face him, he just did what his father and team told him to do it's pretty hard to stand up for that, Winky didn't even PHASE Trinidad..
                      I understand who Tito beat and they were all in and around his weight range. Citing that Tito beat 4 gold medalists etc, it futile. His list of opponents are laid out in the first post. At the end of the day, the best opponent he beat was an old coked up Whitaker while the other fighters were really decent contenders/former champs. Mayweather has been in 19 title fights, Felix has been in 21 and lost 1. Floyd has beaten 11 world champs, Tito has beaten 8. Mayweather has gotten belts in 5 weight classes, Tito in 3, one of them where he subsequently lost the same belt by TKO, came back and got shut out. mayweather's resume is more straight forward.

                      Mayweather on the other hand has yet to beat another undefeated world champion since Diego Corrales(R.I.P), Trinidad beat the better opposition and won belts in 3 different weight classes, he beat the person Floyd built his whole fame off of and put the FIRST loss on his record back when Oscar had pop and can move, Trinidad would have crushed ALL 38 opponents Floyd has faced WHEN FLOYD FACED THEM by KO INCLUDING Ricky Hatton so what you saying? you need to stop sticking up for Floyd and be a ****ing man and know when to throw your hat in and say it's true Floyd ain't #1 in this thread.. don't just quote a piece of my post niether if you reply because you ducking the truth by doing so..
                      What does an undefeated record indicate? Tito's best win against an undefeated was against Vargas, before that, DLH and he really lost. He's fought better fighters than Corrales who had losses, your point is moot. Tito didn't even crush Oscar so I'm not sure how you'd figure he'd crush "all 38 opponents", which means little anyways since most of them were at 130/135.

                      Grasping at straws.
                      Last edited by sonofisis; 11-28-2007, 04:12 PM.

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