So Who's the Draw For Mayweather-Hatton?

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  • Marduke
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    #71
    Mayweather is the draw.

    People want to see him lose.

    (Not saying he will)

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    • jai mari078
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      #72
      Originally posted by quntel
      Floyd After 4 P.p.v

      Is Bigger Than

      Oscar After 4 P.p.v


      Period.....

      Numbers Dont Lie...
      Now you are completely full of **** if you are gonna say that Floyds PPV numbers even come close to Oscars. Your gonna say that any PPV that Floyd has been in supercedes Oscr vs. Tito, or Oscar vs. B-Hop. Your ****ing sick and your nuthugging has gone to a new level.

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        #73
        Originally posted by GunStar
        Mayweather is the biggest name in boxing today, every boxing forum, every thread is about Mayweather, most people hate him but their also obsessed with him.

        Oscar De La Hoya only went over a million PPV's 3 times in his career and that was against 3 big stars, he did 1 Mil with Hopkins, 1.5 mil with Tito "Mexican VS. Puerto Rican war" and 2.4 with Mayweather.

        If Mayweather was not a big draw then the fight with Oscar should've done less then a mil, it broke the all time record, the first report was 2.2 mil which was a record and the second report was 2.4 mil.

        I personally don't give a **** who is the biggest draw in boxing but don't be blind folks.
        The majority of those numbers were due to Oscar, had he not been a part of it, those numbers would not have even come close to what they were and if you think otherwiser you are sick.

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          #74
          Originally posted by GunStar
          I'm talking about now you idiot, besides he did 325K against Baldy, Oscar did only 500K againt Mosley.

          I could careless if Floyd sells 10 PPV or 10 mil PPV, the fact he is the most popular fighter in boxing today and you really can't argue that.
          You leave out what he did with Tito,B-Hop, or even Vargas, and before Oscar Floyd has not even in Oscars universe.

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            #75
            Originally posted by jai mari078
            Now you are completely full of **** if you are gonna say that Floyds PPV numbers even come close to Oscars. Your gonna say that any PPV that Floyd has been in supercedes Oscr vs. Tito, or Oscar vs. B-Hop. Your ****ing sick and your nuthugging has gone to a new level.
            how Do You Even Try To Compare 18 P.P.v Fights To 4 P.P.v Fights ..?


            You Can't......


            You Can Only Compare Thier First 4 P.p.v Fights



            And Numbers Dont Lie.......




            YOU CAN ONLY JUDGE FLOYD BY WHAT HE HAS DONE PERIOD...




            AND FLOYD HAS HAD ONLY 4 P.P.V fights

            SO TO EVALUATE FLOYD VS. OSCAR

            YOU LOOK AT

            FLOYD FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS

            VS.

            OSCAR FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS


            AND FLOYD WINS BY SOMETHING LIKE

            167 MILLION DOLLARS

            TO

            OSCAR 57.4 MILLIONS DOLLARS


            AND EVEN IF WE SAY

            FLOYD FIRST 3 P.P.V FIGHTS

            VS.

            OSCAR FIRST 3 P.P.V FIGHTS


            FLOYD STILL WINS....




            Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
            Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....

            1.Gatti: 15. 3 Million
            2.Judah: 15.7 million
            3.Baldomir : $16.3 million
            4.De La hoya: $120.0 million

            Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
            Totol Money: 57.4 Million
            1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
            2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
            3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
            4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million



            WHAT IS YOUR ARGUEMENT...BECAUSE THIER IS NO ARGUEMENT...

            And Mayweather vs. Hatton is probably going to sell more

            Than Oscar. vs. Tito
            Felix Trinidad(9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
            Last edited by quntel; 11-28-2007, 09:29 PM.

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            • Marduke
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              #76
              2 of DLH's first 4 PPV fights were in ****ing 1995 also, you tool.

              Not to mention his first 2 PPV's were only 3 years after going professional.

              Floyd has been pro since 1996, and had his first PPV after 9 years of being pro.
              Last edited by Marduke; 11-28-2007, 09:30 PM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Marduke
                2 of DLH's first 4 PPV fights were in ****ing 1995 also, you tool.
                so what...!!!

                P.P.V were cheaper back then.... then what it is now....

                you tool...
                So de la hoya should of Sold more...

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                • jai mari078
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by quntel
                  how Do You Even Try To Compare 18 P.p.v Fights To 4 P.P.v Fights ..?


                  You Can't......


                  You Can Only Compare Thier First 4 P.p.v Fights



                  And Numbers Dont Lie.......




                  YOU CAN ONLY JUDGE FLOYD BY WHAT HE HAS DONE PERIOD...




                  AND FLOYD HAS HAD ONLY 4 P.P.V fights

                  SO TO EVALUATE FLOYD VS. OSCAR

                  YOU LOOK AT

                  FLOYD FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS

                  VS.

                  OSCAR FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS


                  AND FLOYD WINS BY SOMETHING LIKE

                  167 MILLION DOLLARS

                  TO

                  OSCAR 57.4 MILLIONS DOLLARS


                  AND EVEN IF WE SAY

                  FLOYD FIRST 3 P.P.V FIGHTS

                  VS.

                  OSCAR FIRST 3 P.P.V FIGHTS


                  FLOYD STILL WINS....





                  WHAT IS YOUR ARGUEMENT...BECAUSE THIER IS NO ARGUEMENT...

                  And Mayweather vs. Hatton is probably going to sell more Than Oscar. vs. Tito


                  Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
                  Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....

                  Baldomir : $16.3 million
                  Judah: 15.7 million
                  Gatti: 15. 3 Million
                  De La hoya: $120.0 million

                  Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
                  Totol Money: 57.4 Million
                  1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
                  2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
                  3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
                  4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
                  This is ****ing ridiculous Oscar has been fighting PPV since almost the beginnig of his career, so to take his first four while he was still coming up is ****ing ******. It has taken Floyd his whole career to get to this point and it took Oscar on the card to give him the biggest figth money and PPV wise of his career. How do you fail to see that? Take what you showed Oscar doing at the beginnig of his career and Floyd at the same point, it doesn't even compare. This says it all when Oscar has been headlining PPV's since almost the beginnig of his career and it has taken Floyd to this point with the help of Oscar to put him over the top. Do you honestly think he would be anywhere near where he is exposure wise had it not been for the fight with Oscar to elevate him? Get real!!! You can be a fan of maywaether and that ids fine, just be objective.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by jai mari078
                    This is ****ing ridiculous Oscar has been fighting PPV since almost the beginnig of his career, so to take his first four while he was still coming up is ****ing ******. It has taken Floyd his whole career to get to this point and it took Oscar on the card to give him the biggest figth money and PPV wise of his career. How do you fail to see that? Take what you showed Oscar doing at the beginnig of his career and Floyd at the same point, it doesn't even compare. This says it all when Oscar has been headlining PPV's since almost the beginnig of his career and it has taken Floyd to this point with the help of Oscar to put him over the top. Do you honestly think he would be anywhere near where he is exposure wise had it not been for the fight with Oscar to elevate him? Get real!!! You can be a fan of maywaether and that ids fine, just be objective.
                    It took Oscar something around 20 fights to get on P.P.V
                    and that with No Problems....,and a Gold Medal in his Pocket....


                    Now Floyd could of been on P.P.V after his 23Rd fight Agaisnt
                    with Corralles
                    But Bob Arum was only focus on Oscar and MAB at the time
                    (nobody agrue that)

                    PLUS Floyd had no Gold Medal because he got robbed... He had Court Problems, and he Wasnt the "Smile all the time boxer like Oscar is..""

                    In 2001 even after he beat Corralles.....
                    he called out Morralles, MAB, Prince Hamed FOR p.p.v FIGHTS and Arum didnt make it happen because why....


                    MAB was with Top rank..., and he gave Hamed to MAB insted of Mayweather...

                    so mayweather fought Corralles in 1/2001

                    AND

                    MAB fought Hamed in 4/2001

                    So its not Floyd fault.....It's Top Rank Fault

                    But when floyd did get on P.P.V you could see where his following was at....!


                    AND FACTS ARE FACTS

                    Floyd 1st Four P.P.V
                    beats
                    Oscat 1st Four P.P.V
                    Last edited by quntel; 11-28-2007, 09:46 PM.

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                    • Marduke
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                      #80
                      Why did you leave out Floyds PPV buys? Thats right, because he really didn't sell that many more.

                      Over 9 years into his career and he really didn't sell much more than Oscars first PPV only 3 years into his career.

                      Vs Gatti: 365,000 PPV buys
                      Vs Judah: 374,000 PPV Buys
                      Vs: Baldomir: 325,000 PPV Buys

                      And you can't even count the DLH vs FM fight for Mayweather and against Oscar. Who the **** do you think was the biggest draw for that fight? I'm sorry, it wasn't Mayweather.

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