Kelly Pavlik vs Prime Roy Jones, Jr at 160 or 168

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  • Vladimir303
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    #41
    Originally posted by pesticid
    So what, he fought mostly bums until Hopkins and he fought 22 times. Pavlik's got 29kos in 31 fights all at 168. Roy Jones had great power at 160 and carried it even to the heavyweight division but at middleweight he hasn;t put out, literally tough strong guys like Taylor, Miranda, Zerucci and McKart.


    You don't know nothing about boxing.

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      #42
      Originally posted by pesticid
      Again, I am speaking strictly of pwer, not who would win, not who's got the better skills and so on. I don;t pick fights in fantasy match-ups. If they fight now Kelly will probably dislocate his neck from the shoulders.
      From your statements I can tell what your prediction is. Stop grasping at straws and trying to discredit Roy's power. Roy hit you with one good shot and your eyes rolled back in your head like you had just been killed.

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        #43
        Originally posted by skilspaydabills
        From your statements I can tell what your prediction is. Stop grasping at straws and trying to discredit Roy's power. Roy hit you with one good shot and your eyes rolled back in your head like you had just been killed.
        Well, I've never picked anybody in a fantasy match-up. Find a post where I have skills. But as for now if they ever fight I have no doubt who wins. AFter the beating that Glen Johnson gave Roy, I have no doubt as of now.

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          #44
          Originally posted by skilspaydabills
          From your statements I can tell what your prediction is. Stop grasping at straws and trying to discredit Roy's power. Roy hit you with one good shot and your eyes rolled back in your head like you had just been killed.
          How do I discredit his power? By saying that Pavlik maybe hits harder at 160. You're an idiot!

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            #45
            Originally posted by pesticid
            Well, I've never picked anybody in a fantasy match-up. Find a post where I have skills. But as for now if they ever fight I have no doubt who wins. AFter the beating that Glen Johnson gave Roy, I have no doubt as of now.
            Yeah you didn't SAY who would win but you inferred it. To realize what your you believe the outcome of that particular fight would be I have to SERIOUSLY question your knowledge of this sport. Discredit was a bad word, I think a better word would be underestimating. Believe me THAT Roy is nowhere near the level of a Roy at 160. If you are using that fight to choose who would win this particular one than you are totally ignorant on the subject.

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              #46
              Originally posted by vladimir303

              You don't know nothing about boxing.
              I know a lot about boxing.
              I've boxed, I've helped put up boxing rings, filled up heavy bags with soy beans as a kid. Roy Jones and Naseem Hamed were my idols when I was a kid. I learned more about boxing later on and realized that the aforementioned fighters were disrespecting the sport of boxing by doing a lot of things incorrectly but getting away because of their incredible natural talent. That's around the time where I became a huge James Toney fan and I can't believe I cheered against him when he fought Jones, which is still Roy's best and most complete victory in his entire career. Later on, I found out that roy was juicing, and Naseem Hamed had the most fragile ego. How can you can hang up after a loss?

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                #47
                Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                Yeah you didn't SAY who would win but you inferred it. To realize what your you believe the outcome of that particular fight would be I have to SERIOUSLY question your knowledge of this sport. Discredit was a bad word, I think a better word would be underestimating. Believe me THAT Roy is nowhere near the level of a Roy at 160. If you are using that fight to choose who would win this particular one than you are totally ignorant on the subject.
                Again, common knowledge may lead me to believe that Roy would win at 160, however I am not picking fights in a fantasy match-up. People say that Ray leonard would kill Floyd at 147. I don;t know about that. I am not picking Floyd but it's two different eras. I think Floyd defensively is almost at a Sweet Pea level and he is not a southpow either.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by pesticid
                  Again, common knowledge may lead me to believe that Roy would win at 160, however I am not picking fights in a fantasy match-up. People say that Ray leonard would kill Floyd at 147. I don;t know about that. I am not picking Floyd but it's two different eras. I think Floyd defensively is almost at a Sweet Pea level and he is not a southpow either.
                  YOU JUST SAID "Glen Johnson beating down Roy Jones would confirm my prediction." That is an IGNORANT statement from someone who OBVIOUSLY lacks knowledge of the sport.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                    YOU JUST SAID "Glen Johnson beating down Roy Jones would confirm my prediction." That is an IGNORANT statement from someone who OBVIOUSLY lacks knowledge of the sport.
                    I said if they fought now. Read carefully my post if you're going to attack me.
                    Roy right now is shot to pieces although he'll beat Tito convincingly. As of now Pavlik whoops him. Roy when he used to fight at 160 and Pavlik at 160 I can;t say.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                      YOU JUST SAID "Glen Johnson beating down Roy Jones would confirm my prediction." That is an IGNORANT statement from someone who OBVIOUSLY lacks knowledge of the sport.
                      I never said that and if you think that roy jones of today can defeat a prime and elite fighter you're clearly dellusional.

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