Joe Calzaghe Blasts Team Hopkins Over Jones

[denboy]

well guys, it's real simple, instead of calzaghe bitching and complaining about this and that. if calzaghe really really wants to fight hopkins, then give hopkins what he wants, money and location shouldn't be an issue then for calzaghe, he should give hopkins what he wants within reason and make the fight a reality, instead of bitching about this and that.

what people fail to realize is that hopkins and warren are cut throat business men, they both want it all and they both will do without if they don't get their way.

calzaghe and his people are trying to make it look like hopkins backed out of a previous fight because he priced himself too high, get real, they must believe everything they hear and read. you know exactly what happened, the verbal arrangement sounded good so hopkins said lets do it, and then when hopkins looked at the contract with a fine tooth comb he noticed that it was bull****.
see what most people fail to understand, more then half of the boxers out in the world don't even know how to read a contract, and about half of those boxers, their lawyers don't even know what to be looking for, there are few people who actually read their contracts in great detail, and hopkins being one of them. most fighters take the promoters word for it and then they cry they were robbed when their money wasn't the same as the verbal agreement.
seriously, it isnt just one guy in all of this, a lot of people tend to forget that warren is a scumbag and are blinded by calzaghe, so they over look that simple fact.

now, on a personal level, a fight with calzaghe, for me, is the only fight that hopkins should be taking, but if he doesn't at least i know why, because they aren't giving him what he wants, even if they were close, hopkins would take it, but i don't even think it's in the ballpark.

but i would much rather see hopkins fight calzaghe then fighting jones jr., and i'd much rather see hopkins fight calzaghe over trinidad, there is no reason to be fighting trinidad again, i can see the jones jr fight happening for revenge, but all in all the calzaghe fight is the one worth a damn, just warren and calzaghe have got to play ball, instead of saying they are and then blaming everything on Ol'Popkins......

No they had agreed on a contract then all of a sudden Hopkins wanted a ridiculously higher purse ( according to calzahes autobiography)

[ßringer]

No they had agreed on a contract then all of a sudden Hopkins wanted a ridiculously higher purse ( according to calzahes autobiography)

Imagine that............

[Jim Jeffries]

Calzaghe is definitely the better fighter right now

Insult the hell out of the guy and then totally agree with what he said.

[TonyJ]

That's just it, Hopkins is entitled to 60/40 in most experts eyes. Same as Jones was entitled to 60/40 in a rematch with Bernard. The bigger name, with the better record and more well known opponets always gets the lion's share of the purse. Calzaghe has no one on his record like a Felix Trinidad, or and Oscar De La Hoya, or a Winky Wright or even an Antonio Tarver.

Hopkins has guys on his record like a Jeff Lacy or Mikkel Kessler in either Howard Eastman or Keith Holmes.

You are serious? It's not about who has bigger name on his record. IT's about who generates more money, simple as that. If Calzaghe can make way more fighting in Britain (because he is a much bigger draw than Hopkins is in Philly) than taking a 40% split, why should he fight in the US?? Calzaghe can draw 70,000 fans now easily @UK-primetime. This is woth more than 300,000PPV-Buys.
Calzaghe got more for his last fight than Hopkins, so what's the point? Bernard acts like he is ODLH, but in his fights against DLH or Trinidad nobody gave **** about him.

[ßringer]

Insult the hell out of the guy and then totally agree with what he said.

Initially I thought he was talking in terms of accomplishment, not current conditioning. That is why I took issue with the statement of Calzaghe being better than those 3 living legends. I figured most people would know the difference.

[Burnetti]

There's a lot said in regard of Hopkins' record vs Calzaghe's and if you hold their opponents as a barometer then you should point out that on equal terms against an in-prime rival, Roy Jones Jnr, Hopkins lost.

He then went on a record run of defences that, much like Calzaghe's, went unoticed and under appreciated.

His prominence has come as a result of victories against over matched (in terms of weight) opponents in the wins over Trinidad, Delahoya, Winky.

How would these opponents fared against Calzaghe? Sadly we will never know but rather than ask opponents to jump up 2 divisions or more from their prime weight, fight Calzaghe and prove that you can beat an in-prime fighter who's undoubtedly at his peak.

I speak as a Calzaghe fan so there is bias in what I say but if you find my comments unreasonable than say so.

[FrankJack]

I don't think there is anything to be gained in fighting either Jones or Trinidad. He's knocked out one of them already and won a one sided decision against Tarver who's conquered Jones twice. But, that being said, for the most part, I don't think the American audience cares very much or knows much about Calzaghe, I may be wrong though. Either way, I think that he should go ahead and fight him, it'll be good for the sport. Either that or fight some of the other good Light Heavyweights.

[ßringer]

You are serious? It's not about who has bigger name on his record. IT's about who generates more money, simple as that. If Calzaghe can make way more fighting in Britain (because he is a much bigger draw than Hopkins is in Philly) than taking a 40% split, why should he fight in the US?? Calzaghe can draw 70,000 fans now easily @UK-primetime. This is woth more than 300,000PPV-Buys.
Calzaghe got more for his last fight than Hopkins, so what's the point? Bernard acts like he is ODLH, but in his fights against DLH or Trinidad nobody gave **** about him.

Taylor-Hopkins II pulled in 410,000 PPV Buys.

If I were any better at digging up numbers I'm sure the number of PPV buys for Wright and Tarver were also very high. And if I remember correctly Hopkins/Wright was almost completely sold out.

[deuce_drop]

No they had agreed on a contract then all of a sudden Hopkins wanted a ridiculously higher purse ( according to calzahes autobiography)

haha, who writes your jokes. that is one side of the story, you need both sides to make it factual. good god people needs to open up their minds............

quit being obtuse, there are two sides to the damn thing. and i bet hopkins is going to say something along those lines in his auto biography..........

the fact of the matter is, the fight can be made, it is just up to the numbers and the dispersement of the cash, and the location. now the nuts and bolts of it all is this, if calzaghe wants the fight, give hopkins what he wants without shooting himself in the foot. if you make it publicly known what is the real deal and the truth, put it out for all to see and hopkins still says no, then you guys can say whatever, but you're taking a shady promoter and a self promoting fighters word for it without any evidence or insight to inside details of the whole thing.

we could go on and on, but the fact remains that these to en****** need to get over their egos and make it happen, but i think both are hiding behind ego, calzaghe and hopkins. they should fight winner take all if they really want to fight each other, providing that their people get paid for sacrificing their time.

the fight between calzaghe and hopkins no matter how much either side wants it, isnt going to happen, sad to say, because neither side is going to budge. hopkins has had his fair share of bad deals back in th day and isnt going to take another one, not at this stage in his career. calzaghe has always had warren working in his favor..........

[TonyJ]

@Bringer

Sold out???
Hahaha i was in America for vacation. I've seen the fight live @Mandalay Bay (we could't catch the WIlliams-Margarito fight). The live-audience were waaaay under 10k, i would say 7k. EVEN they gave away 100$-tickets for free!!! THis is the truth, i was there and they couldn'fill the casino so they had to give free-tickets away.
The live-gate was under 1M $ I think.
410,000 buys against Taylor is a very solid number. I am sure with GBP promoting they could crack the 500,000 wall but they have to pay Joe more than that money he can get in Britain fighting Woods or Froch.