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  • pbftxrs316
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    #41
    Originally posted by Unseen
    better conditioned? they had 15 rounds back then...
    and you rea;;y think that floyd couldn't go 15 rounds? come on man, floyd could go 15 rounds easily, he's conditioned to the core.

    and, as far as him saying he's the greatest, that's fine imo because he has the righ tto say this, it's his opinion, and everybody's entitled to it. there is no way to really determine who is the greatest without displeasing someone anyway, so people who have ray robinson as the greatest like i do, will displease someone who has ali as the greatest. i feel skillwise though, floyd has a very valid argument, imo, he just may be the greatest fighter in the skill department of all time. but, that's just me. agree to agree or disagree but that's how i feel. floyd is suppose to say he's the greatest, he has to live his legacy first, before keeping someone else's going forever. we all know how great ali and robinson were, but this is floyd's time, and there's nothing wrong with humility which is why floyd also stated that ali and robinson were great fighters also.

    but, people always like to bash floyd on this forum, but if you go on youtube, when floyd is training before the oscar fight, and having a media interview while he is getting his hands wrapped, he claimed that in every era, there is a fighter who feels that he is better than a fighter who is considered great in the previous era, he's no different. he feels that after he is done, there will be a fighter in the next era who will claim that he is greater than floyd, so it's just showing confidence in yourself. if you come into a sport and bust your ass and train hard in a sport that is a combat sport and is aimed for greatness, only to claim that such and such is the greatest that ever did it, then why be in the sport to begin with. yes, give them their props, but give yourself the glory especially if you have the credentials and have accomplished a lot yourself. call yourself the best to ever do it. that's fine. confidence in yourself only makes you stronger under any circumstance.

    and, not to mention, ali and robinson are from a different era in boxing, that had more rounds, more opponents, but less money, so they had to fight more. they fought for legacies more it seemed like. but, in the process, helped boxing get where it is today with all of this money, so in turn, they are to blame for where it is today financially. but, with this being noted, i can understand how people feel when they claim that seeing how ali and ray were from different eras, and boxing was different back then, how can floyd make such claims when he's fighting in a sport that is a business more than a competitive sport today and have people defend it. well, fighters like floyd are smart enough to take advantage of getting more money for their talents and taking care of their families and themselves. but, this takes nothing away from their talents and dedication to this legendary sport. this sport imo was built on confidence and floyd has plently of it as we all know, it's just that people take in his cinfidence different, and some praise it, some bash it, calling it ****iness, what ever the case, floyd has a right to be confident and voice his opinion, whether you like it or not, you still watch him don't you? just like people watched ali, no matter how many times he called himself the greatest, he just showcased his confidence, and he's looked at as a folk hero today by many of his former detractors. hate floyd, love floyd, but you'll still watch him.

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    • tredh
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      #42
      Its a truly sad day in the world when a man can't have an opinion of himself and not have people ***** whin and complain about it. He has already said before that he has not given this sport 30 years of his life to say anyone is better than him. He also said he takes his hat off to Hagler, Robinson, Leonard and all those people but he can't say they are better then him.
      If you feel they are better than him then that is fine and your right just like its his right to say he is better than them.
      I don't agree with him being the best ever but I also don't have a problem with him saying he is the best ever.
      **** I wouldn't care is somebody like John Ruiz said they were the best that his opinion **** should I care about a mans opinion of himself?

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      • JoartCC
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        #43
        Originally posted by pbftxrs316
        and you rea;;y think that floyd couldn't go 15 rounds? come on man, floyd could go 15 rounds easily, he's conditioned to the core.

        and, as far as him saying he's the greatest, that's fine imo because he has the righ tto say this, it's his opinion, and everybody's entitled to it. there is no way to really determine who is the greatest without displeasing someone anyway, so people who have ray robinson as the greatest like i do, will displease someone who has ali as the greatest. i feel skillwise though, floyd has a very valid argument, imo, he just may be the greatest fighter in the skill department of all time. but, that's just me. agree to agree or disagree but that's how i feel. floyd is suppose to say he's the greatest, he has to live his legacy first, before keeping someone else's going forever. we all know how great ali and robinson were, but this is floyd's time, and there's nothing wrong with humility which is why floyd also stated that ali and robinson were great fighters also.

        but, people always like to bash floyd on this forum, but if you go on youtube, when floyd is training before the oscar fight, and having a media interview while he is getting his hands wrapped, he claimed that in every era, there is a fighter who feels that he is better than a fighter who is considered great in the previous era, he's no different. he feels that after he is done, there will be a fighter in the next era who will claim that he is greater than floyd, so it's just showing confidence in yourself. if you come into a sport and bust your ass and train hard in a sport that is a combat sport and is aimed for greatness, only to claim that such and such is the greatest that ever did it, then why be in the sport to begin with. yes, give them their props, but give yourself the glory especially if you have the credentials and have accomplished a lot yourself. call yourself the best to ever do it. that's fine. confidence in yourself only makes you stronger under any circumstance.

        and, not to mention, ali and robinson are from a different era in boxing, that had more rounds, more opponents, but less money, so they had to fight more. they fought for legacies more it seemed like. but, in the process, helped boxing get where it is today with all of this money, so in turn, they are to blame for where it is today financially. but, with this being noted, i can understand how people feel when they claim that seeing how ali and ray were from different eras, and boxing was different back then, how can floyd make such claims when he's fighting in a sport that is a business more than a competitive sport today and have people defend it. well, fighters like floyd are smart enough to take advantage of getting more money for their talents and taking care of their families and themselves. but, this takes nothing away from their talents and dedication to this legendary sport. this sport imo was built on confidence and floyd has plently of it as we all know, it's just that people take in his cinfidence different, and some praise it, some bash it, calling it ****iness, what ever the case, floyd has a right to be confident and voice his opinion, whether you like it or not, you still watch him don't you? just like people watched ali, no matter how many times he called himself the greatest, he just showcased his confidence, and he's looked at as a folk hero today by many of his former detractors. hate floyd, love floyd, but you'll still watch him.
        Baseless and opinions which hold no ground.

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        • Down4TheCount
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          #44
          i keep trying so hard to like floyd , but sumtimes he just makes you not want to like him . hes a hard guy to be a fan of . unless you like all the childish , testosterone filled teenage things he does.

          theres being ****y / confident , humourous , being flamboyant and colourful , but then theres just stuff that borders on ****** / annoying .

          ali falls more into category number one while floyd is a mix of both .

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          • ben41193
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            #45
            Well honestly most good boxers like to think they r the best, Mayweather just expreses it, I mean im sure lenox lewis as humble a man as he is in the back of his mind think "well i prolly coulda taken ali, I mean i have this this and that and he did this that and this wrong" But he just would never say it aloud because he knows hed be hated, mayweather doesnt care at all what we think about him, Thats the difference

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            • JoartCC
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              #46
              Originally posted by tredh
              Its a truly sad day in the world when a man can't have an opinion of himself and not have people ***** whin and complain about it. He has already said before that he has not given this sport 30 years of his life to say anyone is better than him. He also said he takes his hat off to Hagler, Robinson, Leonard and all those people but he can't say they are better then him.
              If you feel they are better than him then that is fine and your right just like its his right to say he is better than them.
              I don't agree with him being the best ever but I also don't have a problem with him saying he is the best ever.
              **** I wouldn't care is somebody like John Ruiz said they were the best that his opinion **** should I care about a mans opinion of himself?
              Excuses.

              You're just trying to cover his ass dude. Man up.

              The simple fact is. American masses are slowly realizing Fake FLoyd is nothing but a punk liar and a coward.

              More and more critics are starting to question his resume and manner of victories.

              The masses.

              Well majority of them see him as nothing but a RUNNER.

              So that settles it.

              A few years from now the name Fake FLoyd wouldn't even be remembered.

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              • Mozza
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                #47
                Originally posted by tredh
                Its a truly sad day in the world when a man can't have an opinion of himself and not have people ***** whin and complain about it. He has already said before that he has not given this sport 30 years of his life to say anyone is better than him. He also said he takes his hat off to Hagler, Robinson, Leonard and all those people but he can't say they are better then him.
                If you feel they are better than him then that is fine and your right just like its his right to say he is better than them.
                I don't agree with him being the best ever but I also don't have a problem with him saying he is the best ever.
                **** I wouldn't care is somebody like John Ruiz said they were the best that his opinion **** should I care about a mans opinion of himself?
                Most rational people would say that they would feel honoured to be talked about in the same breath as legends like Ali but Mayweather's tone is arrogant and somewhat dismissive of living legends like Ali and fallen warriors like Robinson.

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                • tredh
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JoartCC
                  Seriously.

                  Seriously.

                  ****ING SERIOUSLY!

                  Hey Fake Floyd fans.

                  Still believe Fake Floyd is p4p?

                  I thought when he said "Im not fighting to prove to the fans who's the best" was the icing on the cake which exposed Fake Floyd for the fraud that he is.

                  Claiming he's better than Ali or SRR is such a punk lie.
                  You keep bringing up the bolded quote like it really proves something. I don't see whats fake about it. If he really was fighting for the fans to prove whos best wouldn't he have fought Margarito? So actually the quote ain't fake. Really no fighter fights to prove to the fans whos the best. They fighting for paychecks and to prove to themselves that they can beat said opponent.

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                  • JoartCC
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mozza
                    Most rational people would say that they would feel honoured to be talked about in the same breath as legends like Ali but Mayweather's tone is arrogant and somewhat dismissive of living legends like Ali and fallen warriors like Robinson.
                    Exactly.

                    The thing is.

                    Most people aren't IDIOTS LIKE SOME.

                    People have brains and can rationalize.

                    When you have the utter to ******ity to dismiss legends like Ali or Robinson YOU BETTER HAVE A RESUME WHICH CAN MATCH THEM

                    AT THE VERY LEAST.

                    And as it stand THE VERY LEAST IN ITSELF HAS MADE FAKE FLOYD FALL SHORT.

                    Very, very short.

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                    • JoartCC
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      You keep bringing up the bolded quote like it really proves something. I don't see whats fake about it. If he really was fighting for the fans to prove whos best wouldn't he have fought Margarito? So actually the quote ain't fake. Really no fighter fights to prove to the fans whos the best. They fighting for paychecks and to prove to themselves that they can beat said opponent.
                      Your opinion means nothing because between your opinion and Fake FLoyd's own words which by the way I'm amazed that he stuttered so violently when he said those words...

                      We both know what stands.

                      Fake FLoyd's own words speak for itself.

                      One doesn't need to be Einstein to know what's white from black. Or orange from red.

                      So don't confuse yourself.

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