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  • #21
    Originally posted by Unseen View Post
    if it is a war then i think that pacs left hand and his "new" right hand will win. he coudlnt show it agaisnt barerra really ebcause it wwas not such a war. pac is fast with his hands and legs. i dont doubt him at all.
    LOL @ you saying this stuff. his ''new right hand''? again, Guzman is too elusive for PAC. he will figure that one straight left hand out with ease. thats basically all PAC does. you can't be one dimensional against a fighter like Guzman.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Unseen View Post
      do you think that soto is a legend or anything? style makes fights and it ius clear that soto did not have the speed to hit guzman. i htink that if he could land all his combo's then he would have hurt guzman. guzman was clearly too fast for him.

      but that doesnt mean that pac is a soto. pac is fast enough i believe to hit guzman a fair few times. if he fights like he has done in the past he would win imo. pac can box better than he use to aswell but i also believe in roach when he says pac has both hands now. if these are the case then i doubt pac would lose.
      Soto is a very good fighter who i think will still become champion and Guzman beat him by wide UD. PAC can box? since when do boxing mean throwing straight lefts over and over again. PAC is probably the most successful one dimensional fighter i have ever seen.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Unseen View Post
        do you think that soto is a legend or anything? style makes fights and it ius clear that soto did not have the speed to hit guzman. i htink that if he could land all his combo's then he would have hurt guzman. guzman was clearly too fast for him.

        but that doesnt mean that pac is a soto. pac is fast enough i believe to hit guzman a fair few times. if he fights like he has done in the past he would win imo. pac can box better than he use to aswell but i also believe in roach when he says pac has both hands now. if these are the case then i doubt pac would lose.
        the PAC fans are quiet now. that means they have nothing else to say because they know Guzman would give PAC a lesson.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
          again, give me a fighter that PAC has knocked out with one shot?
          Sasakul, Ledwaba. PAC may not have the one-punch ko power he use to have, but if you've looked at some of his recent performances, he has the power that may not necessarily take his opponent out but it staggers them and it is his finishing skills that destroys them.

          So, all I'm sayin' is, PAC just needs that one good hard shot that dizzies his opponent and when he follows it up, it's all fastball from different angles and it usually ends in a ko/tko. Guzman, as slick as he is tends to get wild as well, he throws wide looping hooks ala Mayorga and guess what's a great counter for wide-looping punches, A straight punch. And Manny has a straight punch that detonates in his opponents faces.

          Manny also has another option to go to besides the straight punch. If you've looked at Manny's fights closely in his recent outings, it's not even the straight punch that gets things rollin', it's his counter right-hook that is doin' the damage. PAC has been effective with the right-hook, especially when he uses it as a counter. PAC would usually block his opponents left hook and counter it with the right hook and then follows it up with his $$$ punch.

          So, for Manny it's block the left-hook and counter it with his left straight down the pipe, followed with a right-hook or block the left hook and counter with his own right-hook and follow it up w/ the straight left. Manny can also use his uppercuts against the bobbin' and weavin' Guzwoman.

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          • #25
            Pacquiao has never fought anyone like Guzman before, ever.



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            • #26
              Soto is a DAMN good fighter...and Guzman pretty much schooled him.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Smokin' View Post
                Soto is a DAMN good fighter...and Guzman pretty much schooled him.
                Yeah Guzman is in my view an A class elite fighter. Obviously not a marquee name yet and never will be.....because of his defensive style and age. But Honestly I don't think I've ever seen someone fight like him before. It's insane how fast he bobs and weaves in to throw quick punches, and especially how quick his hands are. I'm not sure if there's really anyone in boxing who's hands are faster.



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                • #28
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                  Yeah Guzman is in my view an A class elite fighter. Obviously not a marquee name yet and never will be.....because of his defensive style and age. But Honestly I don't think I've ever seen someone fight like him before. It's insane how fast he bobs and weaves in to throw quick punches, and especially how quick his hands are. I'm not sure if there's really anyone in boxing who's hands are faster.
                  He's like a young Mosley, dude.

                  But yeah, he's too small to be a HUGE name (no one likes little guys fighting) but he can be a decent star.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI View Post
                    Sasakul, Ledwaba. PAC may not have the one-punch ko power he use to have, but if you've looked at some of his recent performances, he has the power that may not necessarily take his opponent out but it staggers them and it is his finishing skills that destroys them.

                    So, all I'm sayin' is, PAC just needs that one good hard shot that dizzies his opponent and when he follows it up, it's all fastball from different angles and it usually ends in a ko/tko. Guzman, as slick as he is tends to get wild as well, he throws wide looping hooks ala Mayorga and guess what's a great counter for wide-looping punches, A straight punch. And Manny has a straight punch that detonates in his opponents faces.

                    Manny also has another option to go to besides the straight punch. If you've looked at Manny's fights closely in his recent outings, it's not even the straight punch that gets things rollin', it's his counter right-hook that is doin' the damage. PAC has been effective with the right-hook, especially when he uses it as a counter. PAC would usually block his opponents left hook and counter it with the right hook and then follows it up with his $$$ punch.

                    So, for Manny it's block the left-hook and counter it with his left straight down the pipe, followed with a right-hook or block the left hook and counter with his own right-hook and follow it up w/ the straight left. Manny can also use his uppercuts against the bobbin' and weavin' Guzwoman.
                    he wore them down with multiple shots. i seen those fights. Soto hits harder than PAC so 1 little shot from PAC won't do him do him any good against Guzman. it won't even stun Guzman. matter of fact, Guzman would just laugh and toy with PAC when PAC lands. and i don't know what makes you think PAC has actual boxing skills? block left and counter? never have you seen or will you see PAC counter punch....LOL that was a good one.

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                    • #30
                      I completely disagree.

                      I think its a very even fight. Pacquiao is easily one of the best fighters in the world when he is going forward.

                      Going backwards and its a different story, but Guzman wont even try making PAC go backwards. Its not his game.

                      Id put my money on PAC, but Guzmans speed could give pac trouble.

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