How's Pavlik not in anyone's P4P list?

[Froch You]

But they have Calzaghe as high as 2 behind Mayweather I like Calzaghe and think he's as talented as they come but I think people are overrating him a bit. I'm not one of these ******s that say "I knew he was going to beat Lacy" I hoped he would and glad he did. But who did Lacy beat? A shot Reid, An even worse shot Pemberton, his best win was probably Syd Vanderpool LMFAO. Miranda has a better win against a top supermiddleweight in Allan Green even though that's just 1 fighter lol. Lacy's opponent are nowhere near the talent level Green is. And some people before November 3rd had Kessler in the top ten P4P list. He won his title(WBA) off of Siaca who had a 18-4 record and beat Mundine, Eric Lucas and Marcus Beyer Not exactly a murderer's row. I think Taylor or Pavlik would beat anyone Kessler had beat. Can you imagine Pavlik in there with Beyer

Where do you list Pavlik in the P4P discussion?

[SkillspayBills]

LMAO Calzaghe has done WAY more with his career then Pavlik, who is just really getting started in his own right.

[jayfelice]

Calzaghe would make Pavlik look like a fool.

[kayjay]

Miranda hadn't done more than Lacy. Miranda is a guy who will be forgotten in five years.

Now knocking out taylor is huge, but that's one fight. Pavlik has a lot of work ahead of him.

[Froch You]

LMAO Calzaghe has done WAY more with his career then Pavlik, who is just really getting started in his own right.

Calzaghe deserves to be in the top ten no doubt about it. All I'm saying is how's Pavlik not in it. Miranda has beat Allan Green who would beat anyone Lacy had fought prior to Calzaghe and Kessler won his two belts from Siaca 18-4 and a shockingly weak beltholder Beyer. Pavlik and Taylor are better than those two guys. I guess all you have to do is move to supermiddle weight

[TonyJ]

I see no relationship between Calzaghe and Pavlik.
But there is a commonality between Hopkins and Pavlik. Both guys fought the same man not long ago. The one lost, the other won by KO. SO why is Bernard ranked beyond Pavlik?

[WLAD OWNS]

I have Kelly Pavlik at #6 in my p4p rankings. There is no way you can put someone like Hopkins ahead of Pavlik IMO because Hopkins is Taylor's ***** and Pavlik just murdered Taylor.

[Froch You]

I see no relationship between Calzaghe and Pavlik.
But there is a commonality between Hopkins and Pavlik. Both guys fought the same man not long ago. The one lost, the other won by KO. SO why is Bernard ranked beyond Pavlik?

Good point I don't know why Hopkins is still there after all he beat a JR middle weight at lightheavyweight in Wright. I hope mans up and fights Calzaghe. All I'm saying is there's a few people I rank ahead of him but he's definitely there top 5.

[Piggu]

I think he's top-15 or so, but he needs some another big win to crack the top 10.

And not against Taylor. He's already KO'd Taylor once, so if he knocks him out again it probably won't do much for him on my list.

[demirturk]

Miranda hadn't done more than Lacy. Miranda is a guy who will be forgotten in five years.

Now knocking out taylor is huge, but that's one fight. Pavlik has a lot of work ahead of him.

shut the **** up, miranda is just getting started, youl see.