Kelly Pavlik - Have I missed something?

[Newyorkknicks07]

He's performed very well in two big fights, knocking the #1 andf the champ unconscious. That's enough to get him close.

first of all he did not knock Taylor unconsious. He had a bull**** TKO when he was winning the fight according to the judges. I know nobody's goanna agree with me, but i think Taylor got slightly robbed in that fight.

[C'MONMANG']

Kessler was a tested Champion, whats makes Pavlik any better than him???

Seriously?

Pavil beat and ko'D THE CHAMPION. THE CHAMPION...

Kesseler wasnt THE CHAMPION..

pAVLIK is.

[C'MONMANG']

first of all he did not knock Taylor unconsious. He had a bull**** TKO when he was winning the fight according to the judges. I know nobody's goanna agree with me, but i think Taylor got slightly robbed in that fight.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL,. you're RIGHT. NOBODY not even Taylor or his trainer. Manny said in the post fight conference that Pavilk came back and won the round after being KD and controlled the pace of the fight leading to the KO.

[kayjay]

first of all he did not knock Taylor unconsious. He had a bull**** TKO when he was winning the fight according to the judges. I know nobody's goanna agree with me, but i think Taylor got slightly robbed in that fight.

Bull**** TKO?? Taylor was motionless and slumped, they gave him smelling salts, then he snapped backed. You don't get smelling salts inside the ten count. You need to rewatch that. If the ref didn't wave it off, Taylor would not have moved a muscle.

[MickyHatton]

Pavil beat and ko'D THE CHAMPION. THE CHAMPION...

Kesseler wasnt THE CHAMPION..

pAVLIK is.

No but he held two belts and defended them on several occasions. Pavlik hasn't even defended his titles yet?

[QuCongee]

first of all he did not knock Taylor unconsious. He had a bull**** TKO

Dude....cmon.

[C'MONMANG']

No but he held two belts and defended them on several occasions. Pavlik hasn't even defended his titles yet?

CHAMPIONSHIP

[Technical_Skill]

By the way this is not about having a pop at Pavlik because I like him, whats there not to like? but.....

The guy is a good fighter with excellent power but nothing I have seen suggests that there is anything more, I mean he has a very upright type style, doesn't have great hand or foot speed IMO and his defence is not the greatest I have ever seen.

Therefore why all the hype? Some of posts I have read have suggested that he is now a P4P top ten fighter, why? because he beat the man who beat man (an ageing version that is). Surely there are far better proven fighters who just don't currently hold a belt?

There has to be more than that, please put me straight because I must be missing something?

Im sorry mate, but this is nearly spot on, i saw the miranda fight and didnt see the hype in this guy, his defence is okay, he took big shots he didnt have to, he seems to good throwing in straight lines, nothing more, im by no means an expert on pavlik, but when i saw him i didnt really rate the guy.

[thread_bumper]

Wait, wait, wait... Kessler deserves to be ahead of Pavlik? Since when does a guy who just lost an 8-4 decision deserve to be ahead of a unified, lineal champion?

[Super_Lightweight]

Yes they are. http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...r_Pound--1980s

1989 was a long time ago. It has been years since a natural heavyweight was even in the p4p ratings.

It is perfectly reasonable that when you beat the man, you become the man. I don't care if you had one pro fight...if you beat Bernard Hopkins in your 2nd fight, then you should be a top ten p4p fighter.

Pavlik coming from 'obscurity' is a questionable argument. p4p status should not be based on how well you are known...if that was the case, DLH would never number one every year.

Like I said, this is a fair system, because if Pavlik really doesn't 'deserve' the spot, then he will lose shortly.