Klitco vs Fraizer

[Neuraxis]

And I've seen enough big and strong, yet unco-ordinated heavyweights, lose to men much smaller than them, which enables me to form my opinion that Vitali wouldn't stand a chance against a number of heavyweights from years past, no matter how much bigger he is.

Stopping for an injury is what enables you to come to that opinion?

[Yogi]

Stopping for an injury is what enables you to come to that opinion?

Huh?

I was talking about the likes of Jess Willard, Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer, etc., etc., who all lost to fighters that were much smaller, albeit a lot more talented than them.

And don't kid yourself, Vitali Klitschko is only slightly more talented than those guys, but wouldn't even come close to matching the heart that those others displayed in their fights.

Oh, and if Vitali goes into 'panic mode' when the infrequent attacks of Corrie Sanders were coming at him in the early rounds, what would he do when he's getting attacked for the full fifteen rounds by a fighter whose as aggressive and determined as was Joe Frazier?

Yeah, he would get tired, then careless, and end up getting stopped before the fight reaches the mid rounds.

[Neuraxis]

Oh that's strange. I thought we were talking about modern day super heavyweights like Vitali Klitschko.

[Yogi]

Oh that's strange. I thought we were talking about modern day super heavyweights like Vitali Klitschko.

Are these the same "modern day, super heavyweights" that a certain former cruiserweight champion was able to compete with on the level?

[Yogi]

Oh that's strange. I thought we were talking about modern day super heavyweights like Vitali Klitschko.

And also, what's the difference in the talent level between Vitali and a Jess Willard or Primo Carnera?

In my opinion, not very much.

But you can humour me if you want, and break down the seperate skillsets of those fighters.

[Neuraxis]

And also, what's the difference in the talent level between Vitali and a Jess Willard or Primo Carnera?

In my opinion, not very much.

But you can humour me if you want, and break down the seperate skillsets of those fighters.

Probably because they make Valuev look like Mayweather.

[leff]

Oslo Kamsport Klubb.
Do you box activ?

[PBDS]

Of course he can get on the inside b/c Frazier was one of the quickest and most skilled bobbers and weavers in history, and Vitali is a SLOW puncher. This isn't wrestling, once Frazier bobs his way in, Klitschko can do NOTHING, because the man has NO inside fighting game-no combinations, no short hooks, no uppercuts. So you're saying it'd be just like the Foreman fight, in which George, who had much faster hands then Klitschko, beat Frazier with uppercuts and short hooks, punches that Vitali doesn't even know how to throw. Yeah, real smart your analysis is. And who cares what Francis said? According to Tommy Morrison Joe Hipp was the hardest puncher he ever faced-this from a man who was put into another zone by Ray Mercer. Hae you even seen Francis-Klitschko and Francis-Tyson??? Tell me which fight Francis was hurt more in and get back to me you ignorant mutt. And of course you chose to ignore my examples of the Lewis and Sanders fights, which clearly exposed Vitali's punching power . . . .

....So what do you think Vitali is doing when Frazier is bobbing and weaving and trying to work his way inside? Do you think he is sitting there and letting him do it while knitting a sweater? Vitali drills him with big shots right in the beggining and makes him think twice. Then Frazier finally gets inside and Vitali pushes him back and puts him right on the end of his range and BAM. Smokin Joe just got smoked!! The Lewis and Sanders fights may have created a question about his power for some people. The fact is, he hurt Lewis early with that power and he didn't follow up like he should have in being overly catious. I would be willing to bet that if he had him hurt like that in a second fight he would take better advantage. Sanders took alot of punishment and I was surprised about that. However, in the end he was knocked out just like 96% of Vitali's other victims. He may not have the one punch power that some claim but his cumulative punches are enough for the highest knockout percentage out there. I would also be more willing to take the opinion of a guy who fought four boxers that he is comparing over a guy who just says "who cares what a professional boxer(who fought all four guys he is talking about) has to say about them?" The very same guy who would insist that he knows a hell of alot more than a pro while sitting in his boxers on the couch watching old fight films while scratcing himself.

[Panzergirl]

Oslo Kamsport Klubb.
Do you box activ?

ja. bokset litt for dingo i stavanger. lett tungvekt. vurderer å være med litt denne sesongen og.

[leff]

er lett tungvekt sjæl. skal ha kamp om 2-3 uker , husker ikke helt hehe.
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