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  • Ja Dee
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    #151
    At this stage of the game, Hopkins simply does not throw enough punches to beat someone as active as Calzaghe; and he won't even be able to "thug him out," via physical/rough-housing tactis...BHop surely will have some tricks up his sleeve, but I think the bag will be empty if/when they meet.

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    • ironmt
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      #152
      The only thing that could stop Hopkins at this point would be his age(and no I am not making any excuses for Hopkins In case of a loss)as a matter of fact If I were to bet on this fight I would bet Hopkins by a unanimous decision.The level of competition that each fighter has fought Is like night and day.Hopkins has not left one stone unturned he has fought everyone.If a prime Roy Jones Jr couldnt get rid of Bernard Hopkins I cant see Joe doing It either but than again maybe age catches up with Bernard as It eventually does with every fighter and my theory goes completley down the drain.At any rate this Is a very Interesting match.

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        #153
        Originally posted by ironmt
        The only thing that could stop Hopkins at this point would be his age(and no I am not making any excuses for Hopkins In case of a loss)as a matter of fact If I were to bet on this fight I would bet Hopkins by a unanimous decision.The level of competition that each fighter has fought Is like night and day.Hopkins has not left one stone unturned he has fought everyone.If a prime Roy Jones Jr couldnt get rid of Bernard Hopkins I cant see Joe doing It either but than again maybe age catches up with Bernard as It eventually does with every fighter and my theory goes completley down the drain.At any rate this Is a very Interesting match.
        hopkins lost to roy jones and taylor and fought 2 welterweights in delahoya and trinidad his fight against winky was the ugliest fight i ever seen he had to be at his dirtiest to beat another boxer coming up in weight.the fight with tarver i respect because tarver was the champ at the time but i always thought he was overrated. if bernard fights joe this will b the first time he fights a boxer that is as good as he is if not better that doesn't have to come up 2 weight classes.joe is to aggresive he fights the whole 3 min of every round and i don't bernard could handle it

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          #154
          You make some good points eric.As far as Jr beating hopkins It was legitimate all I was trying to get across was It wasnt a knockout and If a prime roy jones jr couldnt get rid of hopkins(ko)then I personally cant see joe doing It either.The results of the Taylor Hopkins fight are In the eye of the beholder I agree Taylor won the first fight but he certainly did not win the second fight(regardless of the decision).You certainly cant say that Hopkins Is overrated I mean DeLaHoya and Trinidad regardless of the weight difference are two of the greatest fighters of all time and certainly destined for the hall of fame and Hopkins destroyed them both(when have you ever seen either of them dominated so easily).Not to take Joe lightly but he has never been In the ring with a master like hopkins and no kessler and lacy do not count.

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            #155
            Originally posted by ironmt
            You make some good points eric.As far as Jr beating hopkins It was legitimate all I was trying to get across was It wasnt a knockout and If a prime roy jones jr couldnt get rid of hopkins(ko)then I personally cant see joe doing It either.The results of the Taylor Hopkins fight are In the eye of the beholder I agree Taylor won the first fight but he certainly did not win the second fight(regardless of the decision).You certainly cant say that Hopkins Is overrated I mean DeLaHoya and Trinidad regardless of the weight difference are two of the greatest fighters of all time and certainly destined for the hall of fame and Hopkins destroyed them both(when have you ever seen either of them dominated so easily).Not to take Joe lightly but he has never been In the ring with a master like hopkins and no kessler and lacy do not count.
            You have to admit De La Hoya had no business being in the ring with Hopkins, it would be like Mayweather fighting Pavlik. And Trinidad was a damn good welterweight, but barely a contender at middleweight. Ditto Winky Wright at light heavy.

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              #156
              Originally posted by The_Bringer
              Don't get me wrong, I was impressed with Joe's performance last night and he certainly silenced some of his harshest critics. But I've seen the fight twice now and I just don't see what HBO wanted me to see, a "special" fighter in Calzaghe.

              In Calzaghe, what I see is a guy who throws a lot of weak punches, goes backwards against offense, and leaves himself wide open when trading shots. Granted he's a great fighter and an accomplished Champion, but I think Hopkins will **** him up, badly at that.

              Most people here would probably disagree with that statement, but those are the same people who've been waiting for Hopkins to retire for years. With his unorthodox style, Hopkins makes very active opponets inactive by using bait tactics. With his roughhouse inside fighting, Calzaghe won't be throwing nearly as much against a guy like Hopkins.

              I see Hopkins fighting a very brilliant/dirty affair that will probably be one of so ugly it'd make Hopkins/Wright look like a masterful performance.

              Still I think Hopkins will beat Calzaghe and beat him badly at that.
              As always you have good points.

              I think Hopkins would be in for a tough time if he lapsed in different rounds though. Because the chances are that Calzaghe will throw significantly more punches in the fight, and there could be the chance Hopkins falls behind.

              But yeah it's obvious that he has the crafty style that could give Calzaghe fits. Reid was the last counter puncher he faced, and he maybe should have lost that fight. He was tagged with counter right after right.



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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #157
                Originally posted by ironmt
                You make some good points eric.As far as Jr beating hopkins It was legitimate all I was trying to get across was It wasnt a knockout and If a prime roy jones jr couldnt get rid of hopkins(ko)then I personally cant see joe doing It either.The results of the Taylor Hopkins fight are In the eye of the beholder I agree Taylor won the first fight but he certainly did not win the second fight(regardless of the decision).You certainly cant say that Hopkins Is overrated I mean DeLaHoya and Trinidad regardless of the weight difference are two of the greatest fighters of all time and certainly destined for the hall of fame and Hopkins destroyed them both(when have you ever seen either of them dominated so easily).Not to take Joe lightly but he has never been In the ring with a master like hopkins and no kessler and lacy do not count.
                First of all, Oscar was way small compared to Hopkins. Oscar just bit off more than he could chew for the big bucks. While, I loved Bernard's body shot....Oscar never had a chance against Bernard. I see the same thing with Trinidad, although Trinidad gave Bernard a hell of a fight at times. Those fights are masterpieces for Bernard, but Calzaghe is a whole different matter. He's a big guy. And, while you may argue that Lacey was overrated, that's easy to say after the fact. Kessler on the other hand, was clearly not overrated. He's very talented and powerful. Calzaghe's win over Kessler is just as impressive as Bernard's over Oscar and Trinidad, IMO.

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                • eric maldonado
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by ironmt
                  You make some good points eric.As far as Jr beating hopkins It was legitimate all I was trying to get across was It wasnt a knockout and If a prime roy jones jr couldnt get rid of hopkins(ko)then I personally cant see joe doing It either.The results of the Taylor Hopkins fight are In the eye of the beholder I agree Taylor won the first fight but he certainly did not win the second fight(regardless of the decision).You certainly cant say that Hopkins Is overrated I mean DeLaHoya and Trinidad regardless of the weight difference are two of the greatest fighters of all time and certainly destined for the hall of fame and Hopkins destroyed them both(when have you ever seen either of them dominated so easily).Not to take Joe lightly but he has never been In the ring with a master like hopkins and no kessler and lacy do not count.
                  i thought that oscar was winning the fight with bernard before he got knocked out.lacy and kessler were the best fighters in his division and i agree that lacy was overrated but kesslers not.kessler is very good boxer and can probably beat anybody except calzaghe i don't think that bernard has ever fought a young talented boxer like kessler, jermain taylor is alright but nowhere near kessler. taylor won most of his fights becuase his physical strengths not so much by his boxing talent

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                  • eric maldonado
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    First of all, Oscar was way small compared to Hopkins. Oscar just bit off more than he could chew for the big bucks. While, I loved Bernard's body shot....Oscar never had a chance against Bernard. I see the same thing with Trinidad, although Trinidad gave Bernard a hell of a fight at times. Those fights are masterpieces for Bernard, but Calzaghe is a whole different matter. He's a big guy. And, while you may argue that Lacey was overrated, that's easy to say after the fact. Kessler on the other hand, was clearly not overrated. He's very talented and powerful. Calzaghe's win over Kessler is just as impressive as Bernard's over Oscar and Trinidad, IMO.
                    i don't usually agree with you but i also feel like Calzaghe's win over Kessler is just as impressive as Bernard's over Oscar and Trinidad

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by ironmt
                      You make some good points eric.As far as Jr beating hopkins It was legitimate all I was trying to get across was It wasnt a knockout and If a prime roy jones jr couldnt get rid of hopkins(ko)then I personally cant see joe doing It either.The results of the Taylor Hopkins fight are In the eye of the beholder I agree Taylor won the first fight but he certainly did not win the second fight(regardless of the decision).You certainly cant say that Hopkins Is overrated I mean DeLaHoya and Trinidad regardless of the weight difference are two of the greatest fighters of all time and certainly destined for the hall of fame and Hopkins destroyed them both(when have you ever seen either of them dominated so easily).Not to take Joe lightly but he has never been In the ring with a master like hopkins and no kessler and lacy do not count.
                      Is Tarver an ATG because he beat a bloated, past his prime RJJ? I think not.

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