lets get this said now

[me2007]

look there is no doubt that jc just fought prolly the best fight of his life. but that doesnt mean he is p4p the best. yes he beat a great fighter. but there the only two creditable fights. overrated lacey and a great fighter in kessler. the reason why is bc he doesnt come over here. he comes here and wins some big fights than yes i will put him atop of p4p but until he fights here and beats the great fighters here he is just not going to be up there. he needs to come here and fight pavlik. he needs to come over here and fight even taylor, hops, rjj and so on. he needs to beat the names over here. not the names over there. not taking nothing away from the man. he fought great i though kessler was going to beat him im not scared to come out and say it. i was excited bc he was finally gonna lose. but he won and im gonna give it to him. but i see now that he is the greatest fighter of all time or on some ppl p4p he is num 1 or two. he neeeds to come here and fight before he is atop of those rankings.

STFU you american fool

[Welter_Skelter]

even then, our half black half chinese fighters will still be p4p number 1, with added kung fu reflexes.

Hey!!!! You have a sense of humour...

You ought to let that side of you out more often

[Duke McKenzie]

look there is no doubt that jc just fought prolly the best fight of his life. but that doesnt mean he is p4p the best. yes he beat a great fighter. but there the only two creditable fights. overrated lacey and a great fighter in kessler. the reason why is bc he doesnt come over here. he comes here and wins some big fights than yes i will put him atop of p4p but until he fights here and beats the great fighters here he is just not going to be up there. he needs to come here and fight pavlik. he needs to come over here and fight even taylor, hops, rjj and so on. he needs to beat the names over here. not the names over there. not taking nothing away from the man. he fought great i though kessler was going to beat him im not scared to come out and say it. i was excited bc he was finally gonna lose. but he won and im gonna give it to him. but i see now that he is the greatest fighter of all time or on some ppl p4p he is num 1 or two. he neeeds to come here and fight before he is atop of those rankings.

The whole "dey nede 2 cum ova 2 da State's to proove dey can fite" argument is pretty much invalid when you sent over the best you had to offer in Joe's division... I mean, what was Jeff Lacy, Korean?

Pavlik - while I like him a LOT - is nothing to Joe, and was nearly stopped in two rounds by Taylor. Both Taylor and Pavlik would be great matches for Joe as he would look great in beating them.

BHop and RJJ are old men... anyone who believes that RJJ has anything left to offer is mistaken, sadly.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Forget going to the ****in states, they can fight in a scouse snooker hall for all I care. As long as he's beating the best in the world who gives a **** where the fight is?

[col Blake]

if he did fight in a scouse snooker hall he'll have no ****in car when he came out

[Run]

American fight fans really shouldn't be allowed opinions at all.

Actually it's the opposite way around.

I think the topic starter is 1000% ****ing percent on the money. If left to U.K. fight fans the top five P4P in the sport would be:

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Froch
4. Kessler
5. Witter

And that's some messed up, ****** bull****. Nobody there has fought anyone.



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[me2007]

American boxing will be dead soon then we can all laugh.

[Run]

American boxing will be dead soon then we can all laugh.

lol yeah.

Especially after Floyd fights Hatton. That will be a ****ing rude shock for all the U.K. fight fans when Hatton is totally obliterated.

Maybe that will take them down a notch.



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[me2007]

all your gay ass fighters are either 1000 years old or not even american like oscar.

the only people who think american boxing is a worth a **** are these brainless 12 year olds who think RJJ is the greatest fighter who ever lived

[squealpiggy]

he is not going to get anywhere fighting manfredo.

I absolutely agree. But when he fights the number two and the number three in the division and hammers them both, then he's going to get somewhere.

I can see this discussion in five years time when Calzaghe is retired after fighting Hopkins and maybe RJJ and beating them both "Yeah but he fought Manfredo so those other wins don't count!"