Mayweather should do a Baldomir on Hatton

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  • me2007
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    #31
    Originally posted by St@rscreem
    Right. But you do understand that not everyone watches boxing doesn't watch it to "see mofos get KTFO" right? I'm not saying boxing shouldn't be entertaining, but you do understand that Boxing is a sport, correct?
    Yes boxing is a sport.

    Entertaining people is a side-effect of any sport, i.e; theres nothing in the rules of boxing that says "You must entertain people to win this bout." Do you know why that is? Because "entertain people" is a ambigous statement with no real definition. People are different, and they like different things. What one person likes, another person does not. I HATE when people say "Boxing is about entertaining people." What people? Entertaining how?
    Entertainment as a term is not ambiguous. It has been scientifically proven that violence witnessed by humans increases heart rate caused by a release of chemicals into the blood stream. Controlled violence in a fight between say, Mayorga and De La Hoya would produce entertainment (a human term for a chemically induced emotional state). A lack of violence where one fighter is backing up or running away the entire time does not cause such chemicals to be released into the blood stream. Boredom then sets in, the observer may then start to feel cheated and may even leave the arena. Does this remind you of any fighter in particular?

    The vast majority of people are not entertained by Floyd Mayweather. There is a direct corrulation between the number of knockdowns, sways in momentum, back and forth in a fight and their classification as 'great' fights.

    Perhaps the greatest fight of all time was the rumble in the jungle. Would this fight be considered entertaining had Ali not produced a stunning knockout of Foreman?

    The way people have left Mayweather fights, or booed him whilst he was fighting shows the level of entertainment that people have experienced watching his fights.

    If you ARE entertained, you are in a small minoroty.



    Does that mean throw less punches more accurately or more punches less accurately? How many punches must be thrown and/or landed to qualify as entertaining, and to whom? I mean, hell, if two people are going to compete in the ring in this sport, they surely have to have these things clearly defined, or else they can't win their fights! Because after all, "Boxing is about entertaining people for all that $$$ they are paying you."
    We could perform a scientific test on a non boxing fan. They would watch a Mayweather fight such as MW vs DLH and then a real fight between Foreman and Ali. I believe if you performed this test on 100 people, the majority would say the Ali fight was more entertaining.

    This is not rocket science. You watch and pay for boxing if you are entertained by it, if you are not, you don't. But don't think for a second that what you like extends past your own personal opinion, ever, for anything, not just boxing.
    My opinion of Floyd fights is echoed by millions of people. Yours is echoed by the relatively small number of fanatics who will go to any length to praise him.


    I don't watch boxing to see blood. I like and respect the gladiator-esque aspect of it for what it is,
    do you think the roman crowds would have cheered a gladiator who spend his time running away from his opponent?

    but I do not have some primal urge to see another person get knocked unconscious. Boxing is NOT about knockouts.
    Why do you think Tyson was so popular?

    If it was, then you'd be required to knock your opponent out to win. Boxing is about defeating the opponent. If you do not like seeing technical boxers...you know...BOX, then there are many, many KO artists out there. The fact that a boxer with technical skill can manage to outbox a puncher most of the time speaks volumes.
    there is a difference between being a technical boxer and a safety first bore merchant.

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    • SnoopySmurf
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      #32
      The Baldo/Mayweather was good up until Mayweather hurt one of his hands. Up til then, it was like watching a matador just slaughtering a bull.

      I recall watching an old film on Ali when he fought Floyd Patterson for the 1st time. He said he didn't want to knock him out. When I saw Mayweather fight Baldo, I was reminded of that fight.

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      • Parody
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        #33
        For the last time why do you haters still pay to see him fight? You know it very well you want to see him KTFO thats why you pay to watch him! If you find him boring then STOP WATCHING HIS FIGHTS. If you dont like seeing a boxer box for 12 rounds showing skill, then dont watch because your not a true boxing fan.

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        • WLAD OWNS
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          #34
          Originally posted by Parody
          Nice post.
          You are a ****in sellout, you're from London,England and you hate Rocky Hatton. I didn't know there were Floyd nuthuggers in Hatton's homeland. I did hear that the black folks from the UK are cheering for Floyd though, you must be black.

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            #35
            So, you are sayint Floyd should run from a smaller guy. Very Floyd like, I admit. Only that Hatton is no Baldomir and that very well may not work.

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              #36
              Originally posted by me2007
              Yes boxing is a sport.



              Entertainment as a term is not ambiguous. It has been scientifically proven that violence witnessed by humans increases heart rate caused by a release of chemicals into the blood stream. Controlled violence in a fight between say, Mayorga and De La Hoya would produce entertainment (a human term for a chemically induced emotional state). A lack of violence where one fighter is backing up or running away the entire time does not cause such chemicals to be released into the blood stream. Boredom then sets in, the observer may then start to feel cheated and may even leave the arena. Does this remind you of any fighter in particular?

              The vast majority of people are not entertained by Floyd Mayweather. There is a direct corrulation between the number of knockdowns, sways in momentum, back and forth in a fight and their classification as 'great' fights.

              Perhaps the greatest fight of all time was the rumble in the jungle. Would this fight be considered entertaining had Ali not produced a stunning knockout of Foreman?

              The way people have left Mayweather fights, or booed him whilst he was fighting shows the level of entertainment that people have experienced watching his fights.

              If you ARE entertained, you are in a small minoroty.





              We could perform a scientific test on a non boxing fan. They would watch a Mayweather fight such as MW vs DLH and then a real fight between Foreman and Ali. I believe if you performed this test on 100 people, the majority would say the Ali fight was more entertaining.



              My opinion of Floyd fights is echoed by millions of people. Yours is echoed by the relatively small number of fanatics who will go to any length to praise him.



              do you think the roman crowds would have cheered a gladiator who spend his time running away from his opponent?



              Why do you think Tyson was so popular?



              there is a difference between being a technical boxer and a safety first bore merchant.
              Dissected to perfection!

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              • Parody
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                #37
                Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                You are a ****in sellout, you're from London,England and you hate Rocky Hatton. I didn't know there were Floyd nuthuggers in Hatton's homeland. I did hear that the black folks from the UK are cheering for Floyd though, you must be black.
                You dont even know how to spell his name. Your a ******, Ricky is from Manchester not London. I'm a fan of his as well but not a nuthugger like you who blows wlad's load all the time. I recognise who will beat who, Floyd has the correct style to beat Hatton. I just dont judge fighters from their skin colour or Nationality like you. You should be reported for racism

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                • WLAD OWNS
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  You dont even know how to spell his name. Your a ******, Ricky is from Manchester not London. I'm a fan of his as well but not a nuthugger like you who blows wlad's load all the time. I recognise who will beat who, Floyd has the correct style to beat Hatton. I just dont judge fighters from their skin colour or Nationality like you. You should be reported for racism
                  You should be reported for ******ity, Hatton has a better chance than you think. Hatton made Tszyu quit when everyone thought he was gonna get KO'd. Tszyu is a far more dangerous opponent than Mayweather and he got owned. You're just another typical Floyd nuthugger. How can you respect a fraud and coward like Mayweather. And don't EDIT my ****in post this time you Douchebag.

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                  • St@rscreem
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                    #39
                    me2007-I'm not going to quote your entire post because it was long, but I did read it, and you have a point. Now, I'm fully aware that the people who watch boxing for the technical aspect of it, such as myself, is the minority. I would be ****** if I didn't acknowledge that humans are bloodthirsty animals, and I am not ******.

                    But the fact that there is a miniority and a majority means that there is a split, and that everyone doesn't like the same thing. And that was my entire point.

                    The simple facts of the matter is, if boxing was about KO's, then these technical boxers wouldn't be winning their fights. They are, and the only thing people can do about it is come onto forums and impotently whine about it not being bloody enough for their liking.

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                    • Parody
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                      You should be reported for ******ity, Hatton has a better chance than you think. Hatton made Tszyu quit when everyone thought he was gonna get KO'd. Tszyu is a far more dangerous opponent than Mayweather and he got owned. You're just another typical Floyd nuthugger. How can you respect a fraud and coward like Mayweather. And don't EDIT my ****in post this time you Douchebag.
                      You should'nt root for fighters because of their skin colour. Hatton faced Tszyu is England where he was allowed to do whatever he wanted and the Ref was'nt doing ****. It wont happen here though. Wlad is not my favourite fighter but I recognise he is talented and other fighters as well but you are really biased and wont admit it. BTW Hatton is one of my favourite fighters and I watch all of his fights but I call a fight like I see it.
                      Last edited by Parody; 11-02-2007, 12:34 PM.

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