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Ali had no power??? What a joke. Man, Ali could knock them out going BACKWARDS. Here's Ali v. Cleveland Williams. Tyson has no chance against this Ali:
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Foreman was stopped because he waited for his corner to tell him when to get up and got counted out because of it , did he look distressed to you or in bad way when he got up
Holyfield hit Tyson with the Kitchen sink and could nt put him away ,as for Douglas Tyson had already sustained huge punishment and was still there even when he did get knocked out he probably would have beat the count if he had'nt lost his gum shield and tried to put it back in instead of getting up
who the **** is Clevleland Williams Vlad would cane his ass ,Ali didnt Ko Liston in the first fight as for the 2nd fight if Liston had 'nt took a dive he might still have been alive todayComment
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yeah backwards knockdown is PIMP!Comment
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Who the **** is Cleveland Williams? yeah who the guys a bum and u ****in know it What do u think Tyson would have done to a guy as durable as him
i dont hate Ali at all i just think stylistically Tyson wins and i hate these dinosaurs who will not hear of anyone comparing a more modern fighter to any older fightersComment
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Ali over Tyson.. any day of the week. Twice on Sundays.Comment
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I Hate these topics, if u say Tyson the old skool guys think u know nothing!
But 4 me its a win for Tyson, A KO against the young dancing master and most likely a UD against the stronger more seasoned yet more static Ali!Comment
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Divad, now you've shown your ignorance. You must be a 17 year old kid or something because you damn sure don't know **** about boxing.....Here's the relevant portion of an article entitled "Muhammad Ali v. Cleveland Williams":
But if Williams carried a slug into the ring with him that night, he also carried an awesome record as well -- the winner of 65 of 71 fights, 51 by knockout, 15 in the first round. His punching power was reputed to be the equal of any heavyweight in boxing -- past or present -- and there were those who believed that the Cat would triumph, including his voluble manager, Hugh Benbow, who said, "the Cat and me will take care of Clay in three."
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But if Williams' punching power -- compared to that of Liston and Bob Satterfield -- was thought to be enough to turn the 5-1 underdog into a winner, on a percentage basis, Ali's was even better. Whereas Williams was batting .717, with his 51 knockouts in 71 fights, Ali was hitting .808, with 21 knockouts in 26 times at bat. Comparisons aside, one thing was sure: this fight would not go to a decision
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So much for your Williams was a bum theory. AND, your Ali had no power theory. Both theories disposed of here.Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 10-31-2007, 07:42 PM.Comment
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Williams was a bum if Ali could knock him out and with that mummy style the guy never stood a chance with any fluent fighter who could jab on the move and throw combinations Ali revolutionised that style for the next genreration you wanna know how to beat a Brawler you adopt ALI ,SRL tactics stick and move etc ,
ive seen the Cleveland Williams performance many times the guy cannot Box for **** back then he may have been effective but he would'nt have been with many fighters of the modern era his style was slow methodical and predictable
Styles of fighters have evolved over the years and so have the tactics to combat most styles that is why i think it is much easier to compare older fighters to more modern fightersComment
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