We need real fights, not exhibition matches

[tredh]

Why do you people only respect one style of fighting? I just don't get it.
To me it seems like a lot yall would just like it if two people got in the ring flipped a coin to see who gets to punch the other fighter in the face first then they just take turns until somebody is knocked out.

[deevel79]

Why do you people only respect one style of fighting? I just don't get it.

For me its just hard to respect a fighter who gets in the ring, and tries to win a fight by doing the least fighting possible. I dont see how that can be looked down upon.

[tredh]

For me its just hard to respect a fighter who gets in the ring, and tries to win a fight by doing the least fighting possible. I dont see how that can be looked down upon.

There is a difference between boxing and doing the least amount of fighting possible. With what you just said you don't respect the way Sugar Ray Leonard beat Hagler?

[crillz]

Boxing is not so much an art form but a fight game. People want to see the human spirit soar when faced against the odds. Usually the best in man comes out when faced with a real challenge that he dares to fight. This is what the fight fan pays for, not some art exhibit or some dancing-like-a- butterfly competition. The fight fan came to see two men actually fight, not waltz like they were choreographed or something. That is better seen in synchronized swimming or a ballet.

The problem with boxing now is there is actually more fight and drama in an NBA game than in a boxing match. When people are more inclined to watch ten men shoot a ball through a basket than a real fight between men, you cannot but help thinking that something is terribly wrong.

Agree?

you made a good point with the Basketball analogy, I like Boxing over any sport and I can't see why anyone would pick a game over a gladiators sport, Boxing isn't a game it's a gladiator sport yet for some reason even in light of the best year of Boxing in a while people still seem to favor other sports, I guess I CAN see why people might like Basketball over Boxing, the preference part of it explains that but for the actual sport of it in Boxing it's 1 against 1, it ain't another man can lose you a fight and I like that concept.. I guess thats why I like Tennis as well, the fact that the outcome all depends on you is what makes me even like sports..

I think however that Boxing IS an art form, the whole concept is to not get hit yet win the fight, the only way to do that is to be as elusive and as agile as you can be.. I think the actual art form of Boxing gets lost when we see people like Israel Vasquez and Raul Marquez go at it with no sense of finesse, there's no beauty in watching two men kill each other, anyone can do that but when it comes to people like Floyd Mayweather I think he's the line separating Boxers from fighters, his fights are perfect examples of this because his Boxing beats his opponents fighting his technical Boxing ability makes it so that he can amaze you with his hands just like any artist can, I have seen drawing that have literally shocked me from being so good and thats the same type of feeling I get when I see people like Floyd, Pernell, Ali and people of their likes lace them gloves up..

I don't want to misconstrue your points and I apologize if I did but that "dancing like a butterfly competition" line made me think you were implying that fighters should let it all out when faced against a TRUE challenge, that a challenge brings out the best in a fighter and that it shouldn't look like a brawl BUT IMO I think that would go against the whole concept of Boxing, anybody can fight, you even got fighters in Boxing such as Mayorga and Darchinyan but once faced against someone even with very little skill they fold because the whole art of it is that they land their shots and the brawler doesn't.. Vernon got caught because he tried to fight Mayorga's fight but Oscar and Trinidad beat him because they used skill.. IMO I don't think it would be a good idea to let it all hang out just like that because thats when you allow yourself to be hit back which goes against the fundamentals of the game, there's no beauty in slugging but there IS beauty in Boxing and I think thats why Boxing is somewhat of an art exhibit, an exhibit of the art of hitting and not getting hit.. 100

[deevel79]

There is a difference between boxing and doing the least amount of fighting possible. With what you just said you don't respect the way Sugar Ray Leonard beat Hagler?

To be honest, its been quite a while since i seen that fight, and i dont recall quite how it went down. I do respect SRL though.

[tredh]

To be honest, its been quite a while since i seen that fight, and i dont recall quite how it went down. I do respect SRL though.

I do also but I can tell you right now that in that fight SRL did the least amount of possible fighting that he could.

[eazy_mas]

There is life for this fighter after boxing.

look at G-man against Nigel Been. That guy was merciless but had his fate handed to him. He went toe2toe withthe strongest and look at him now, where is he how much money did he got from boxing?

As far as you guy dont want to admited even though boxing is a contact sport but saftey of the fighters alway comes first that is why the ref stops the fight if he feel the person is taking punishment.

There are so many great fighter who speach is blur like Roger Mayweather and James Toney. Even if you got strongest chin in the world if you get hit in the head to many times you brain tend to disfunction abit. e****ally if you have a long career.

and it not alway the best idea for every fighter to go toe2toe but it alway good idea to use all you pro against this fighter and use it to you advantage.

[deevel79]

There is life for this fighter after boxing.

look at G-man against Nigel Been. That guy was merciless but had his fate handed to him. He went toe2toe withthe strongest and look at him now, where is he how much money did he got from boxing?

As far as you guy dont want to admited even though boxing is a contact sport but saftey of the fighters alway comes first that is why the ref stops the fight if he feel the person is taking punishment.

There are so many great fighter who speach is blur like Roger Mayweather and James Toney. Even if you got strongest chin in the world if you get hit in the head to many times you brain tend to disfunction abit. e****ally if you have a long career.

and it not alway the best idea for every fighter to go toe2toe but it alway good idea to use all you pro against this fighter and use it to you advantage.

It might sound a bit cruel, but if a boxer is concerned for his "safety", then he shouldnt be a boxer. Everybody knows that there are risks that come with the sport. Its like a racecar driver driving conservatively because he is scared of crashing. It comes with the territory.

[eazy_mas]

It might sound a bit cruel, but if a boxer is concerned for his "safety", then he shouldnt be a boxer. Everybody knows that there are risks that come with the sport. Its like a racecar driver driving conservatively because he is scared of crashing. It comes with the territory.

Yeah but if he could reduce the risk the it better to do it.

Sometime some brawl will reduce a fighter career. That is why you see some fighters shot as hell and all stuff.

as for the racecar driver if he has the ability not to crash then he would but sometimes he makes some mistake or pride take over him and could end lead to a crash.

Same with boxing it better for a fighter not to test his chin because some fight are not worth the brawl e****ally if you wanna built a legacy going up in weight and fighting guy who outweight you by 20 pound or more.

[deevel79]

Yeah but if he could reduce the risk the it better to do it.

Sometime some brawl will reduce a fighter career. That is why you see some fighters shot as hell and all stuff.

as for the racecar driver if he has the ability not to crash then he would but sometimes he makes some mistake or pride take over him and could end lead to a crash.

Same with boxing it better for a fighter not to test his chin because some fight are not worth the brawl e****ally if you wanna built a legacy going up in weight and fighting guy who outweight you by 20 pound or more.

Im not saying that every boxer should go into the ring and fight ala Mayorga, but damn, its a fight so fight. I cant stand seeing someone throw non-threatening punches and jabs just for the purpose of accumilating points. Basically what im saying is, if your going to fight "scared" then dont fight at all. For example: What Direll did against Stevens. That was disgracefull