Will Floyd go down as an ATG If he beats Hatton?

[Easton Assassin]

Was Corrales? Castillo? Hatton?

Castillo yes, and floyd lost. Corrales no- should be obvious he wasn't an elite.


Hatton hasn't happened yet, only an idiot would assume it's a notch on Floyds belt, but i guess you have made it clear you are assuming that!

[Easton Assassin]

Well, Tszyu lost to a fighter that didn't even sniff P4P. How much should we knock Tszyu down?

How much should we knock MAB down for the JJ losses?

And yes, I am saying that Hatton is overrated. He is not a top ten fighter.

Funny, the very people that you quote for floyds credentials are the ones that rank hatton in the p4p lists.

so which is it Dios? they right or wrong?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

There is a major difference between beating the best AND fighting the best.

.[/SIZE]

Exactly.

Jesse James Leija fought:

Azumah Nelson (2x)
Oscar Delahoya
Shane Mosley
Kostya Tszyu

Plus...Bojado, Gatti, machito, Lazcano, Ward, Ruelas, etc...

Is he great?

[Easton Assassin]

Exactly.

Jesse James Leija fought:

Azumah Nelson (2x)
Oscar Delahoya
Shane Mosley
Kostya Tszyu

Plus...Bojado, Gatti, machito, Lazcano, Ward, Ruelas, etc...

Is he great?

Greater than Mayweather!

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Funny, the very people that you quote for floyds credentials are the ones that rank hatton in the p4p lists.

so which is it Dios? they right or wrong?

I'm telling you how DD ranks Hatton. Ring has objectively ranked him top ten, and I accept that. I think that ranking is TOO HIGH. Ring also has Cotto ranked in the top ten based on a win over Judah. I accept that. We'll see on Nov 11th.

Here's the deal with the Ring rankings: they are dynamic. You can go on, or fall off. So I respect them. If Hatton beats Floyd, he would have proved me wrong. If he gets thrashed, I expect him to fall. As appropriate.

But it's pretty hard to argue ten years on the list without a fall-off. Dontcha think?

[Wiley Hyena]

Greater than Mayweather!

And Tszyu beat him up. Then Hatton beat Tszyu. Oh......

Of course then we have Floyd beating Judah in a UD. A Judah that Tszyu whipped in 2 back when Judah actually had some moxy.

[Vladimir303]

Greater than Mayweather!

Yeah sure ....take a seat in the corner. Why have a debate/discussion with a poster who thinks Leija is greater then Mayweather. That's asking for a flame war.

You're done.

[Wiley Hyena]

I'm telling you how DD ranks Hatton. Ring has objectively ranked him top ten, and I accept that. Ring also has Cotto ranked in the top ten based on a win over Judah. I accept that. We'll see on Nov 11th.

Here's the deal with the Ring rankings: they are dynamic. You can go on, or fall off. So I respect them. If Hatton beats Floyd, he would have proved me wrong. If he gets thrashed, I expect him to fall. As appropriate.

But it's pretty hard to argue ten years on the list without a fall-off. Dontcha think?

Yeah well Tszyu was p4p for how many years? Dios' hypocracy is incredible to behold.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Greater than Mayweather!

I can accept that.

[Easton Assassin]

And Tszyu beat him up. Then Hatton beat Tszyu. Oh......

Of course then we have Floyd beating Judah in a UD. A Judah that Tszyu whipped in 2 back when Judah actually had some moxy.

Yet one more subtly but appropriate point Wiley.


I alone seem to appreciate your knowledge and common sense.


Woe unto the herd mentality masses come dec 8th.