Enigma: Jose Luis Castillo

[Jim Jeffries]

That Floyd only had to win 3 of the remaining 8 rounds to win the fight... as opposed to the 7 Castillo had to win.

And for real? Castillo won one of the first four rounds? Which one, seriously?

Castillo was the champion and only needed to win 6 rounds to keep his belt for one, but I'll watch the fight again this evening and let you know.

[Fox McCloud]

Harold Lederman had it scored 115-111 for Castillo. He sure as hell knows "how to score a fight."

Harold Lederman sucks, and I will always believe that.

Trinidad gets the first round over De La Hoya.

Jesus Chavez first round over Mayweather Jr.

Listen, this guy not only botches close rounds, but he ****s up extremely one-sided rounds too.

[Wiley Hyena]

Floyd hater re Castillo I: JLC ****in OWNED Floyd. JUst look at the punchstats!!

Floyd hater re Delahoya: Punchstats don't mean ****. Oscar's punches were not counted!!

Um, OK.

I can easily see why Floyd won the split decision against Oscar. But, the judges were right. It was a split decision.

[Wiley Hyena]

Harold Lederman sucks, and I will always believe that.

Trinidad gets the first round over De La Hoya.

Jesus Chavez first round over Mayweather Jr.

Listen, this guy not only botches close rounds, but he ****s up extremely one-sided rounds too.

Lederman wasn't the only broadcast guy to score that fight for Castillo. So did Merchant.

[Easton Assassin]

Much has been spoken about Jose Luis Castillo's involvement in the careers of Floyd Mayweather and Ricky Hatton. Of course, we've heard it all, mainly that JLC was "shot" when he fought Hatton, and that he was a great fighter when he was overcome by Floyd. As to being shot; maybe so, maybe no. In my view, JLC never laid down to anybody. One thing for certain, JLC is a pressure oriented, skilled boxer-puncher. His first fight with Floyd at 135 provides one interesting blue-print of how to successfully take a fight to Floyd. In the clip below, you will note how Floyd elected to stand in against JLC (kudos to Floyd) and became vulnerable to a sustained head and body attack. In the second clip, you will note Hatton's offensive pressure. Hopefully from this we may catch a glimpse of what is to come in December. If so, we're in for a great fight.

Hatton v. Jose Luis Castillo (last round):




Mayweather v. Jose Luis Castillo I (last two rounds):

Great post, the fraud of Mayweather will be exposed come dec 8th.

What i find interesting in that castillo fight with mayweather is that all three(merchant, lederman, and lampley agreed that mayweather had been beaten.


Funny how three of the foremost experts in the game could be so lopsided in the best seats in the house.

Of course the nuthuggers will scream they were biased but anyone with eyes can see Castillo won that fight.


Another interesting point. in the second fight Mayweather fought a purely defensive fight-a trend that has followed him to this day when he faces live opposition.

You see, Mayweather is notorious for giving away the early rounds. The reason is, he wants to gauge the ability of the opponent. If that opponent shows any strength, Mayweather invariable opts to fight definsive all night long.

It will be that way with Hatton. The second hatton lands a stiff shot to the liver, Mayweather will be on his bike non-stop till the 12th round trying for the pot shot victory. It doesn't take a genuis to figure it out!


Hatton tko10 or sooner!

[Wiley Hyena]

Great post, the fraud of Mayweather will be exposed come dec 8th.

What i find interesting in that castillo fight with mayweather is that all three(merchant, lederman, and lampley agreed that mayweather had been beaten.


Funny how three of the foremost experts in the game could be so lopsided in the best seats in the house.

Of course the nuthuggers will scream they were biased but anyone with eyes can see Castillo won that fight.


Another interesting point. in the second fight Mayweather fought a purely defensive fight-a trend that has followed him to this day when he faces live opposition.

You see, Mayweather is notorious for giving away the early rounds. The reason is, he wants to gauge the ability of the opponent. If that opponent shows any strength, Mayweather invariable opts to fight definsive all night long.

It will be that way with Hatton. The second hatton lands a stiff shot to the liver, Mayweather will be on his bike non-stop till the 12th round trying for the pot shot victory. It doesn't take a genuis to figure it out!


Hatton tko10 or sooner!

Agreed. Floyd will confront Hatton early to test the water, and quickly pull his toes right out. This is the key to the fight, IMO. One can easily envision a scenario building where the public and judges simply will not reward Floyd with another chicken run decision. IMO the aggressor will win this fight and Hatton will be that aggressor. Therefore, unless it's a total all points blow out by Floyd, there is a reasonable probability that Hatton will get the decision if it's close (assuming it goes to the end).

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Funny how three of the foremost experts in the game could be so lopsided in the best seats in the house.
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Who has the better viewpoint of the fight: The HBO production crew sitting next to each other, or three judges with each one on a different side of the ring?

Who is more focused: The team that is talking and broadcasting a fight, or the three judges whose sole job it it to judge the fight?

Who is more experienced in judging: Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant? Or Jerry Roth & Co?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Of course boxing is scored on a round by round basis, but when the numbers are so overwhelmingly dominating, what are you saying Castillo landed 200 punches in one round and lost the rest?

Let's say Floyd is fighting.... Casamayor.. in a mythical bout. And Casamayor is lading 20 punches, while Mayweather is landing 15 or so. This is for about the first 4 rounds. It's still pretty close, right? Now let's say that in the 4th round, Casamayor just unloads with a barrage of punches, lands 60 in that round out of 80. Mayweather does well, with 40 punches of his own. Then, it's the same pattern, except now, Mayweather is landing 20-10, until the 8th round, and Casamayor does the same thing as in the 4th. 70 out of 100, this time. Mayweather lands 40 punches of his own. Then the 20 to 10 in favor of Mayweather, until the 12th round, and Casamayor lands 50 punches, to Mayweathers 20. Overall, you'd have roughly, 300 punches for Casamayor, to Mayweathers 260, or so. It'd seem like Casamayor dominated the action, by punch stats. But, it'd be a close fight, with roughly 6 rounds, apeice. So it's a pick'em.

Point it, don't always trust punch stats.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Agreed. Floyd will confront Hatton early to test the water, and quickly pull his toes right out. This is the key to the fight, IMO. One can easily envision a scenario building where the public and judges simply will not reward Floyd with another chicken run decision. IMO the aggressor will win this fight and Hatton will be that aggressor. Therefore, unless it's a total all points blow out by Floyd, there is a reasonable probability that Hatton will get the decision if it's close (assuming it goes to the end).

Just wondering. If Hatton loses, which most expercts assume he will.. What are you going to say? Let's say Mayweather dominates, or even stops Hatton late. He'd beat the prime version of the guy who dominated both Tszyu and Castillo. What are you going to say then?

[Wiley Hyena]

Just wondering. If Hatton loses, which most expercts assume he will.. What are you going to say? Let's say Mayweather dominates, or even stops Hatton late. He'd beat the prime version of the guy who dominated both Tszyu and Castillo. What are you going to say then?

How many times must I answer this question? I've said over and over, if Floyd wins I'll give him the credit he deserves. I've further said that this fight is Floyd's best opportunity to erase alot of very valid criticism that surrounds his career. This depends upon how he wins, if he wins.