Why do Floyd Fans compare Hatton to Gatti ?

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  • boxingfan4life
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    #61
    Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
    Don't be a fool, Hatton is probably the best fighter Floyd has ever faced. DLH was past his prime when he faced Floyd, but a prime DLH would definately kick Floyd's ass. Hatton KO'd Castillo in 4, Floyd couldn't even do that in 24 rounds. Hatton made Kostya Tyszu quit, Tyszu was top 5 p4p at the time. I think Tyszu would have KO'd Mayweather if he fought him.
    Try to keep in mind that hatton didnt face the same castillo floyd faced. By the time hatton got to him he was shot and everybody saw that.

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      #62
      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
      Don't be a fool, Hatton is probably the best fighter Floyd has ever faced. DLH was past his prime when he faced Floyd, but a prime DLH would definately kick Floyd's ass. Hatton KO'd Castillo in 4, Floyd couldn't even do that in 24 rounds. Hatton made Kostya Tyszu quit, Tyszu was top 5 p4p at the time. I think Tyszu would have KO'd Mayweather if he fought him.
      ...and I can kick Ali's ass today. So what?

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      • Mozza
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        #63
        Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
        ...and I can kick Ali's ass today. So what?
        Are you seriously trying to compare a 67 year-old with Parkinson's disease to a 33 year-old who is healthy as far as we know but some people have decided is shot since he had his ribs broken by another fighter?

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          #64
          Originally posted by Mozza
          Are you seriously trying to compare a 67 year-old with Parkinson's disease to a 33 year-old who is healthy as far as we know but some people have decided is shot since he had his ribs broken by another fighter?
          Being healthy has nothing to do with a fighter being shot in the ring its 2 different things. Yes he got his ribs broken but that is not why he was called shot either. It was the way Castillo was performing which is why people called him shot. Whether or not the body shot would have KO'ed him while in his prime is a question that can never be answered. But all of that still doesn't take away from the fact that it happened or that it was a great body shot.

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            #65
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            For one, Gatti didn't lose as badly as he did against Floyd because he came forward and threw lots of punches. He lost because he tried to stand off and jab with Floyd, he fought Floyd's fight and got absolutely schooled. For two, Gatti has always been more of a boxer-puncher who generally takes a beating and then relies on his power to catch his opponent and come back. It's no secret that anyone who was able to take his power invariably ended up winning. Gatti started his pro career as a pure boxer puncher and developed into this "blood and guts warrior" persona after the Wilson Rodriguez fight, and his default style has always been as a boxer, though not an elite one. Hatton by contrast has this mauling brawling style by default, and has never been a stand-up-stand-back boxer. Gatti is an outside fighter, Hatton is an inside fighter all the way.

            Come-forward predictable pressure guys have never been easy work for Floyd. Chavez and Castillo were both fighters who had Floyd looking very uncomfortable for large portions of the fights. Floyd won those fights but don't rewrite history and pretend it was easy for Floyd.



            Castillo had a great career, two time lightweight titleholder, but Hatton has surpassed him in terms of accomplishments in his last five fights, by beating Tszyu, unifying with Maussa, becoming a two weight titlist against Collazo, regaining his old belt and knocking out Castillo without any losses or draws. And if Hatton was to beat Mayweather then there could be no doubts that his accomplishments exceed those of Castillo considerably.
            Gatti v Ward I,II,III were all fought on the inside, McGirt tried to change Gatti's infighting techniques and attempted to make him a boxer puncher because he was later in his career and couldnt take the punishment he took earlier in his career.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Mozza
              Are you seriously trying to compare a 67 year-old with Parkinson's disease to a 33 year-old who is healthy as far as we know but some people have decided is shot since he had his ribs broken by another fighter?
              a) castillo did not have his ribs broken.

              b) They did not say castillo was shot AFTER the fight. We all said castillo was shot DURING -and EARLY INTO - the fight.

              c) The Ali thing was clearly Hyperbole to illustrate a point. Hyperbole is not "a comparison". Do you understand literary license? Here's another point: Terrible Terry Norris dominated an aging SRL. Would that have ever happened in ray's prime? Seriously?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Mozza
                Are you seriously trying to compare a 67 year-old with Parkinson's disease to a 33 year-old who is healthy as far as we know but some people have decided is shot since he had his ribs broken by another fighter?
                No, people decided he was shot because we saw a signigificant decrese in his footwork, handspeed and punching power after the Corrales wars.
                All the evidence you need to prove Castillo is shot is in the Ngoudjo fight. (yeah, that guy who was dropped and given a gift against 33 year old randall bailey)
                A prime, or even slightly out of prime JLC would have Ngoudjo out of there in 4 rounds.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  Being healthy has nothing to do with a fighter being shot in the ring its 2 different things. Yes he got his ribs broken but that is not why he was called shot either. It was the way Castillo was performing which is why people called him shot. Whether or not the body shot would have KO'ed him while in his prime is a question that can never be answered. But all of that still doesn't take away from the fact that it happened or that it was a great body shot.
                  This Castillo "four broken ribs" thing is an urban legend that has really taken off, huh?

                  It was a great liver shot.

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                    #69
                    Gatti???? Where's Gatti?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      Hatton has never been superior to Castillo at anything better yes but not the way some yall making it seem. Yes he beat Castillo by KOing him which was good but it wasn't the best version of Castillo. Also just because Hatton KOed Castillo and PBF didn't only proves that Hatton probably hits harder than PBF but other than that it tells you nothing. A few fights ago Cotto beat the **** out of the man that beat in the olympics or something. So all that Kostya beat Forrest in the olympics means nothing in the professional ranks.
                      I would compare Hatton to Gatti in the sense that they both have terrible defense other than that I don't see to many similarities.
                      how does someone with terrible defences win 43 fights and not lose one?

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