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  • SkillspayBills
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    #21
    Mayweather might be eliminated from DWTS tonight, I think he got near the lowest scores.

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      #22
      As much as I don't want to post in Addison's thread I will probably have to, since this thread is as good as any.

      This fight is really very simple for me, it breaks down to two "cans":
      Can Hatton catch up with Floyd and get him on the ropes and can Floyd fight off hatton, no matter the pressure circumstances and fighting at Hatton's pace and awkwardness.

      The logic around this is simple, if Floyd manages to stay on outside I predict a boring but confident 12 round decision for him. It's that easy, since Hatton won't be able to do much on the outside. On the other hand if Hatton manages to keep Floyd on the ropes and constantly punish the body, then the sea of possibilities opens up, including a late tko for Hatton or close decision for either fighter(make no mistake, Floyd's inside game is great, but he is no mauler like Hatton)
      Then goes the second "can". Can Floyd(if Hatton get's his way with him) fight at Hatton's pace, punch at weird angles and get very physical with Hatton. If he can, then again it could go either way*but very close). If he can't, Hatton will wear him down and out.
      Last edited by BrooklynBomber; 10-16-2007, 07:28 PM. Reason: Fuck, I meant hatton not Floyd, bolded is the edited.

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        #23
        Originally posted by skilspaydabills
        Mayweather might be eliminated from DWTS tonight, I think he got near the lowest scores.
        He got the second lowest score. And Mark Cuban (lowest) has been getting more fan votes.

        So I expect PBF to be back in Vegas full-time tomorrow.

        DID FLOYD THREATEN THE JUDGES LAST NIGHT?? LMAO...DID YOU SEE THAT?

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          #24
          Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
          Round 1: Floyd comes out and stands in the middle of the ring. Fairly flat-footed. He is trying to gauge Hatton's strength and speed, and is tuning up his defense. Ricky is catious and throws less than usual. He has a good measure of respect for PBF's speed and counter-punching. He won't get reckless. Ricky was busier. Round 1 Hatton.

          Rd 2: Ricky picks up the pace, and so does Floyd. Mayweather still isn't in form, and they fight a fairly busy but close round. Hatton eats some uppercuts and counter-rights. But RH is determined because he knows that he has to establish his fight. They may end up near/on the ropes. It is becoming clear now to Rick that he is not the stronger man in the ring. Close round. Either way. Probably Hatton on activity.

          Rds 3/4: Mayweather is busier than in the first coupla rounds. He is landing consistently hard shots now, and blocking Hatton's increasingly wide shots. On some occasions, RH comes inside, clinches and tries to maul. PBF is retaliating by pushing off with the elbow/forearm, and the ref warns him. The first signs of wear appear on Rick's face. Rds 3/4 are Mayweather.

          Rds 5/6/7: It is starting to get a bit ugly, and the outcome of the fight is clear now. Hatton, unable to muscle Floyd, and with a considerable skill/speed disadvantage, is getting hit too much. Ricky, being a gamer, rallies. But his face is starting to open badly, and he hasn't solved the puzzle of how to get to Floyd consistently. Perhaps RH takes one of these rounds, but this middle part of the fight is where FMJ really pulls away.

          Rds 8/9: Very ugly. Very. At times, it looks "sixth-round-of-the-Gatti-fight-esque". Ricky, uncharacteristically, is fatiguing and his face is a mess. The ref and/or ring doctor has already taken a good look. Floyd puts his foot on the gas. He stays on the perimeter but is launching hard, straight stuff.

          Hatton's corner, in a smart decision to preserve their fighter's health and psyche, elects not to send him out for round 10.

          Mayweather TKO 9 Hatton.
          I stand corrected, that's appreciated. I'll have a look, cheers.

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            #25
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            He got the second lowest score. And Mark Cuban (lowest) has been getting more fan votes.

            So I expect PBF to be back in Vegas full-time tomorrow.

            DID FLOYD THREATEN THE JUDGES LAST NIGHT?? LMAO...DID YOU SEE THAT?
            lol two of those judges are scared sick of him because of that statement. However the female judge showed none.

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              #26
              Originally posted by PIPBoy 2000
              As much as I don't want to post in Addison's thread I will probably have to, since this thread is as good as any.

              This fight is really very simple for me, it breaks down to two "cans":
              Can Hatton catch up with Floyd and get him on the ropes and can Floyd fight off hatton, no matter the pressure circumstances and fighting at Hatton's pace and awkwardness.

              The logic around this is simple, if Floyd manages to stay on outside I predict a boring but confident 12 round decision for him. It's that easy, since Hatton won't be able to do much on the outside. On the other hand if Hatton manages to keep Floyd on the ropes and constantly punish the body, then the sea of possibilities opens up, including a late tko for Hatton or close decision for either fighter(make no mistake, Floyd's inside game is great, but he is no mauler like Hatton)
              Then goes the second "can". Can Floyd(if Hatton get's his way with him) fight at Hatton's pace, punch at weird angles and get very physical with Hatton. If he can, then again it could go either way*but very close). If he can't, Floyd will wear him down and out.
              Makes total sense to me. Good post.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                Round 1: Floyd comes out and stands in the middle of the ring. Fairly flat-footed. He is trying to gauge Hatton's strength and speed, and is tuning up his defense. Ricky is catious and throws less than usual. He has a good measure of respect for PBF's speed and counter-punching. He won't get reckless. Ricky was busier. Round 1 Hatton.

                Rd 2: Ricky picks up the pace, and so does Floyd. Mayweather still isn't in form, and they fight a fairly busy but close round. Hatton eats some uppercuts and counter-rights. But RH is determined because he knows that he has to establish his fight. They may end up near/on the ropes. It is becoming clear now to Rick that he is not the stronger man in the ring. Close round. Either way. Probably Hatton on activity.

                Rds 3/4: Mayweather is busier than in the first coupla rounds. He is landing consistently hard shots now, and blocking Hatton's increasingly wide shots. On some occasions, RH comes inside, clinches and tries to maul. PBF is retaliating by pushing off with the elbow/forearm, and the ref warns him. The first signs of wear appear on Rick's face. Rds 3/4 are Mayweather.

                Rds 5/6/7: It is starting to get a bit ugly, and the outcome of the fight is clear now. Hatton, unable to muscle Floyd, and with a considerable skill/speed disadvantage, is getting hit too much. Ricky, being a gamer, rallies. But his face is starting to open badly, and he hasn't solved the puzzle of how to get to Floyd consistently. Perhaps RH takes one of these rounds, but this middle part of the fight is where FMJ really pulls away.

                Rds 8/9: Very ugly. Very. At times, it looks "sixth-round-of-the-Gatti-fight-esque". Ricky, uncharacteristically, is fatiguing and his face is a mess. The ref and/or ring doctor has already taken a good look. Floyd puts his foot on the gas. He stays on the perimeter but is launching hard, straight stuff.

                Hatton's corner, in a smart decision to preserve their fighter's health and psyche, elects not to send him out for round 10.

                Mayweather TKO 9 Hatton.
                I'll respectfully disagree with the notion that Hatton hesitates one second to apply his pressure. There is a possibilty that Ricky stands back intially, because fighters like to suprise their opponents occasionally as well as the viewing audience, it does happen, certainly - but I doubt very much that Hatton will give Mayweather any room at any point.

                I think you make a good point that Hatton may show certain caution, but I believe more so along the lines of safely trying to bore his way in as opposed to leading with his punches initially. Hatton will be getting closer than Karina Smirnoff for all 36 minutes.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                  Mayweather might be eliminated from DWTS tonight, I think he got near the lowest scores.
                  I hope not!

                  But I think you're right.. It will be a good test to see if Floyd can overcome his natural tendency and make true adjustments.

                  I have a sneaking su****ion Floyd is less dynamic than he claims..

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                    Wow that literally shows the plans to have Floyd face Tszyu after the Hatton fight. Sort of like how they want Shane to beat Cotto.
                    Maybe so, maybe no. It's just a shame it never happened.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PIPBoy 2000
                      As much as I don't want to post in Addison's thread I will probably have to, since this thread is as good as any.

                      This fight is really very simple for me, it breaks down to two "cans":
                      Can Hatton catch up with Floyd and get him on the ropes and can Floyd fight off hatton, no matter the pressure circumstances and fighting at Hatton's pace and awkwardness.

                      The logic around this is simple, if Floyd manages to stay on outside I predict a boring but confident 12 round decision for him. It's that easy, since Hatton won't be able to do much on the outside. On the other hand if Hatton manages to keep Floyd on the ropes and constantly punish the body, then the sea of possibilities opens up, including a late tko for Hatton or close decision for either fighter(make no mistake, Floyd's inside game is great, but he is no mauler like Hatton)
                      Then goes the second "can". Can Floyd(if Hatton get's his way with him) fight at Hatton's pace, punch at weird angles and get very physical with Hatton. If he can, then again it could go either way*but very close). If he can't, Hatton will wear him down and out.
                      Good post.

                      I'm figuring things a little differently with some shades of gray. We may very well see Floyd challenging Hatton to a brawl...at first. I don't think that will last long after Floyd feels the sting of Hatton's power. So he'll move. Then it could get ugly, with Hatton doing his lunging hold em hit em thing. If this goes on constistently for more than 3 or 4 rounds, I will expect to see signs of wear and tear on Floyd. IF SO, Floyd will have to dig deep, or he will lose. IMO.

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