Corrales & Castillo A Class Or B Class

[Dynamite Kid]

Here is how it works.

Everybody says "Look at the first castillo fight. That is the way to beat Floyd". Ricky said it. Oscar said it. many posters on here said it. It is generally accepted as a valid argument. Fine.

That fight was six years ago with Floyd moving up to fight a much bigger man. And Floyd rematched him and beat him soundly.

But if I bring up the fact that hatton gassed late vs Collazo and was almost KO'd, then I'm somehow an ******* for that. And that fight was just ONE year ago.

How does that work?

The "Castillo template" is completely valid, but nobody should ever mention that Hatton looked pretty bad late in both the Collazo and urango fights? Which were much more recent (and therefore, more valid)?

Who has the real double-standard?

what i said is nothing to do with any blue print of how to beat PBF

what i was saying is why be hypocrite and criticise Hatton for the Collazo performance after the the performance PBF put on against Castillo and the decision he got ,surely you can undertand how that may be deemeed hypocritical

then that is where im coming from so do us a favour stop using the Collazo analogy to discrdeit Hatton and big up Floyd cause it is hypocritical and biased

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

what i said is nothing to do with any blue print of how to beat PBF

what i was saying is why be hypocrite and criticise Hatton for the Collazo performance after the the performance PBF put on against Castillo and the decision he got ,surely you can undertand how that may be deemeed hypocritical

then that is where im coming from so do us a favour stop using the Collazo analogy to discrdeit Hatton and big up Floyd cause it is hypocritical and biased

I criticise Hatton for the Collazo and Urango performances because he dd not look good and , IMO, expose major flaws in his fight game.

Now, Is it fair to say that castillo exposed flaws in PBF's fight game? Completely. But you have to ask what happened to those flaws five months later in the rematch.

If Hatton rematched Collazo (as he said he would) and beat Collazo convincingly, then I would never talk about Louise Collazo. But Ricky went back to 140 and fought Urango when there was unfinished business with Louise.
The last images we have are of Ricky being bounced around the ring. Do you think that Louise would be VERY confident in a rematch?


Even if you think Castillo got robbed vs PBF, do you at least respect that Floyd did an immediate rematch?

[Pugilistic™]

they are b class fighters

[Dynamite Kid]

I criticise Hatton for the Collazo and Urango performances because he dd not look good and , IMO, expose major flaws in his fight game.

Now, Is it fair to say that castillo exposed flaws in PBF's fight game? Completely. But you have to ask what happened to those flaws five months later in the rematch.

If Hatton rematched Collazo (as he said he would) and beat Collazo convincingly, then I would never talk about Louise Collazo. But Ricky went back to 140 and fought Urango when there was unfinished business with Louise.
The last images we have are of Ricky being bounced around the ring. Do you think that Louise would be VERY confident in a rematch?


Even if you think Castillo got robbed vs PBF, do you at least respect that Floyd did an immediate rematch?

is was a necessity for PBF to fight Castillo again there is the huge difference ,because in nearly everybodys eyes except yours of coarse he lost his fight

most people were of the opinion Hatton beat Collazo allbeit it was a close,not the case with PBF v Castillo its obvious to me who looked worse when you consider the majority of people thought that Hatton won his fight and PBF lost his fight

it aint about who looked better or worse to me that is just tit for tat but what gets on ny nerves is how you think you can bring it up when PBF clearly lost his fight and got a gift ,Best thing to do is get of your Hatton v Collazo trip and all will be fine

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

is was a necessity for PBF to fight Castillo again there is the huge difference ,because in nearly everybodys eyes except yours of coarse he lost his fight

And, of course, three ringside judges.

Unless you think the judges were crooked.

[Vladimir303]

is was a necessity for PBF to fight Castillo again there is the huge difference ,because in nearly everybodys eyes except yours of coarse he lost his fight

most people were of the opinion Hatton beat Collazo allbeit it was a close,not the case with PBF v Castillo its obvious to me who looked worse when you consider the majority of people thought that Hatton won his fight and PBF lost his fight

it aint about who looked better or worse to me that is just tit for tat but what gets on ny nerves is how you think you can bring it up when PBF clearly lost his fight and got a gift ,Best thing to do is get of your Hatton v Collazo trip and all will be fine

Who said that Hatton won more convincingly against Collazo then Floyd did vs Castillo.

Fact: floyd never got hurt against Castillo

Fact: Hatton got hurt real bad wobbling on his feet like he usually does when drunk.

Fact: all 3 judges scord for floyd just as all 3 judges scored for hatton.

Fact: He ran back down to 140 like a little ***** and didn't want any of the welterweight division after getting undressed like a school girl in his first fight at welter.

END OF STORY......do not get all obsessive about this like Wiley about Floyd ducking Kostya

[Dynamite Kid]

And, of course, three ringside judges.

Unless you think the judges were crooked.

well wether they were or not they and you are in a minority ,eh

[-Antonio-]

B+ class imo.

People can make a case for Castillo. No way you can make a case for Corrales. He lost two out of three against Casa, and he got dominated and embarassed by Floyd. Big points for coming back against Freitas and Castillo, but Castillo came back and knocked him out in the rematch. He had a good win against Gainer too. Just not enough to say he's A class.

[Dynamite Kid]

Who said that Hatton won more convincingly against Collazo then Floyd did vs Castillo.

Fact: floyd never got hurt against Castillo

Fact: Hatton got hurt real bad wobbling on his feet like he usually does when drunk.

Fact: He ran back down to 140 like a little ***** and didn't want any of the welterweight division after getting undressed like a school girl in his first fight at welter.

END OF STORY......do not get all obsessive about this like Wiley about Floyd ducking Kostya

FFS ,it is irrelevant who was more convincing the point is you cant criticise 1 and excuse the other if you think Hatton was about to get stopped just square that with the fact that PBF lost his fight

but regardless its just the type of thing im talking about you PBF fans are so pro Mayweather in your eyes you can distinguish that Floyd losing and rematching Castillo is more credible than Hatton getting hurt against Collazo and winning the fight and then returning to Light welter ,lol

vladimir303 , i am hate PBF NO you just ****in love him unconditionally

[Dynamite Kid]

B+ class imo.

People can make a case for Castillo. No way you can make a case for Corrales. He lost two out of three against Casa, and he got dominated and embarassed by Floyd. Big points for coming back against Freitas and Castillo, but Castillo came back and knocked him out in the rematch. He had a good win against Gainer too. Just not enough to say he's A class.

i think you have got it spot on i think you have hit the nail on the head they were both good but not great i do apologise i did word it wrong they are B+ Class not quite A Class but they did deserve more than being B Class fighters

its sounds strange but i mean how do you judge how good or great Castillo was do you base it on the first fight with PBF or the 2nd fight were he was made to look worse than average