No way Manny beats Juan Diaz

[Run]

Pac beats the old JMM in a rematch. But a prime Manuel Marquez counters Pac to death, no doubt about it.

So yeah JMM is the same fighter, if not better.

The only difference is that he flew overseas and was robbed blind in a fight where he out threw, out landed, and chased his opponent around the ring. He's still one of the top 5 P4P best fighters in the sport any way you slice it.



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[joepal]

Knocked JMM out my ass. He floored him 3 times and then lost at basic least 8 of the remaining 11 rounds after that. You score the round 10-6 with the three knock downs and JMM still wins the fight by a point.

Even at that, I scored every single round for JMM after the 1st.

All Pac did was get tagged and put his hands in the air trying to convince the crowd he was exchanging and landing something.

You're the only guy here who says that JMM won and Pac ducked the rematch. Get a life you hater.

[rica9475]

juan would make mannny quit...manny cant fight going backwards...

YEAH RIGHT..LIKE WHEN PACMAN BEAT D CHAMPION LIKE LEDWHABA(BANTAM WEIGHT) IN JUST 2 WEEKS NOTICE, BCOZ PACQUAIO WAS JUST A REPLACEMENT THAT TIME (PACMAN U.S. DEBUT)...

AND JUST LIKE HOW HE BEATEN UP BARRERA IN THERE 1ST ENCOUNTER (NOW 2X), WHERE IN PACQUIAO IS JUST A NOBODY AND ALMOST 95% OF D AUDIENCE HU WATCH D FIGHT EXPECTED BARRERA TO WIN..

PACMAN HAS PROVEN A LOT BEYOND ALL THE CRITICSM & ADVERSAY AND DOWNPLAY OF HIS ABILITY BY THOSE UNBELIEVERS..

WHAT A SHAME THAT UNTIL NOW OTHERS STILL CANT SEE WHAT HE IS DONE & WAT HE IS NOW IN THE WORLD OF BOXING..

SSSOOOOOO SHAMEFUL!!!!!

[Alibata]

Pac beats the old JMM in a rematch. But a prime Manuel Marquez counters Pac to death, no doubt about it.

You seem so sure about that... No problems with your opinions but I guess Its a loss loss for Pac with dudes like you because there seems to be no glory for guys like Pacquiao... What will it take for Pacquiao to earn the respect from doubters like yourself... We cannot rewind time but you seem to be certain about your assertions. I think you are the type of person that finds consolation in assertions that cannot be proven... Ok thats fine. Your opinion is just that; an opinion. Even though Pac kd jmm 3 times and got a draw by admitted mistake from a judge that would have Pac winning. I think JMM was in his prime then..

[MightyMikeA]

i don't want to get into argument over the first fight and leave it at that...but the never ending argument will be decided soon.... PAC-JMM 2 !!! BRING IT ON!!

These poor Mexicans are freaking OLD now, Manny needs to stop beating dead horses;

We knew what the outcome of Pac-Morales 3 was going to be. We knew what the outcome of Pac-Barerra 2 was going to be and we know the outcome of Pac-JMM 2 if it should happen.

These guys are all approaching mid 30s and for 130 and after countless wars they are OLD.

Manny needs to step it up against new challenges. He's starting to become like the JT of the little guys, trying to coast his way to glory against no hopers. These Mexicans are just names now, they're old and need to rest.

He needs to go to 135 or at least fight Guzman or Valero before he does.

[rica9475]

Kool bro, I respect your opinion, but all that detective work up there is meaningless because styles make fights. Pac came across older and more ring-worn versions of MAB, Morales and JMM, that is a fact that cannot be disputed.

As for you saying "yours" in regards to these fighters, I'm just a white guy calling them as I see them, I have no national bias here, I just think the Mexican fighters in their primes were all more exquisite fighters than Pacquiao who is immense himself, but a tad bit overrated for beating this great group of fighters at an opportune time.

ANOTHER TYPE OF PERSON WHO UNTIL NOW STILL DENIES THE VERY FACT OF D PACMAN'S CAPABILITY....SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO SHAMEFULL!!!!

[Run]

Pac UD12 JMM (had the scoring been called correctly)

Let me ask you something. When was the last time you watched that fight? Because if you watched it with most of your other rowdy pacquiao fan friends.....you might have been a tad bit overwhelmed with excitement in the first round when Pac floored JMM 3 times.

Because outside of that he was given a straight up boxing clinic where he was losing rounds rapidly. In fact the best thing that could have happened to Pac was that he floored JMM 3 times, because if he hadn't............he would have clearly lost a UD in a landslide fashion.

Rounds with Knock downs, and especially more than one..........tend to cause errors in scoring judgment based on personal bias.



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[joepal]

Pac beats the old JMM in a rematch. But a prime Manuel Marquez counters Pac to death, no doubt about it.

Prime JMM loses to a prime MAB that Pac blistered for 12 rounds, who are you kidding?

Haters excuses are always like this: "Sure my boy got beat, but if he was in his "prime" or "focused", he'd win big time, no doubt about it".

Yeah right.

[Run]

You're the only guy here who says that JMM won and Pac ducked the rematch. Get a life you hater.

Gee.

Could it be that 90% of the posters in this thread are either Pinoys or Pac Nuthuggers? I point out facts with clear objectivity.

You defending Pac and talking about how he's Jesus is pretty ******ed.



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[joepal]

So yeah JMM is the same fighter, if not better.

The only difference is that he flew overseas and was robbed blind in a fight where he out threw, out landed, and chased his opponent around the ring. He's still one of the top 5 P4P best fighters in the sport any way you slice it.

That's what you get for running all the way to Indonesia for 3K and avoiding a 900K rematch with Pac.

Somebody got beaten up real bad in Pac-JMM, scared to make a rematch, and it sure wasnt Pac.