No way Manny beats Juan Diaz

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    #91
    juan would make mannny quit...manny cant fight going backwards...

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      #92
      Originally posted by MightyMikeA
      Pac has the perfect strafing attack to get at Diaz. Jump in with powerful one two...it would be an exciting fight. But I think Juan is just too big and solid for Pacman and would get to him by the mid-rounds. Pac is now a man without a division. He has conquered 130 but 135 just doesn't seem quite right for him.. In no way am I comparing Pac to Gatti, but it reminds me of something like Gatti's situation where he couldn't make 140 but was too small for 147.
      In football terms, that's what's called a tweener.

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        #93
        Originally posted by joepal
        No substance in what you just said. Are you ducking my question?

        Let me repeat it then. What fighter in the history of the sport has KOd ATGs on the skill level of a MAB, JMM and Morales TEN ****EN TIMES?
        I could tell you that I think Pac caught MAB and Morales (who beat him once) at the tail end of their careers and after having fought countless wars, but that would enrage you. Also, when did Pac knock out JMM, did the rematch happen and I missed it? You saw what happened in that fight when Pac came up against a semi-prime JMM, he almost got out-boxed.

        I have no doubt that the Morales that starched Zaragoza would've done the same to Pacquiao. The 2001 version of JMM would've knocked out Pacquiao as well. But that's just my opinion, please don't crush me as a Pac-maniac for having one, ok?

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          #94
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          Last edited by Alibata; 10-14-2007, 02:11 AM.

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            #95
            Originally posted by joepal
            Man, you shoulda seen how Randy Suico was taking it to Diaz. And Suico wouldnt even make it in the 1st round against Pac (both had sparred and fought in the amateurs).

            Pac KO6 Diaz.
            Juan Diaz is just one of those fighters that I am awed at... I don't know how someone can keep on throwing like that without punching himself out... I've never seen anyone busier... Pac is a busy fighter and I am at awe at his work rate as well but I think Diaz is a little busier than Pac...If Pac can bring his power effectively to 135lbs than its over for diaz... If he can't hurt diaz' its over for Pac... Diaz seems to have a really good chin... Its all about the weight. Diaz is significantly bigger and I've never seen him hurt ever...will see!!! hope im wrong

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              #96
              Originally posted by m00ks
              No, constantly keep throwing is how Manny lands on your ass and knocks you out. No, Diaz doesn't have a better defense than Manny, they both equally get hit. No, being a southpaw isn't much of an advantage, Julio switched southpaw and was still getting tagged. His biggest advantages would be his power, footwork. And no, Diaz didn't get through Julio and Freitas cuz of power, it was his overwhelming handspeed and punch output.
              Defense - PAC and Juan are hittable

              Julio switched southpaw - but Julio isn't really a southpaw, he didn't know how to defend from a southpaw stance, it was actually worse for him.

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                #97
                Originally posted by bigsmoothh
                by that time pac would be the version of morales/barerra thus leaving a fresh unbeaten juan diaz to destroy manny in a devastating way. i actually would like to see that.
                will see that in time, if that will be the case ...

                and i am hoping to see it around 2009...

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by MightyMikeA
                  I could tell you that I think Pac caught MAB and Morales (who beat him once) at the tail end of their careers and after having fought countless wars, but that would enrage you. Also, when did Pac knock out JMM, did the rematch happen and I missed it? You saw what happened in that fight when Pac came up against a semi-prime JMM, he almost got out-boxed.

                  I have no doubt that the Morales that starched Zaragoza would've done the same to Pacquiao. The 2001 version of JMM would've knocked out Pacquiao as well. But that's just my opinion, please don't crush me as a Pac-maniac for having one, ok?
                  Jeebus. Listen to yourself. Normally I wouldnt dignify that bolchit with a response but there are lotsa gullible fans reading this they might actually believe you.

                  Pac OWNS Morales at all points of his career. Pac KOd Reynante Jamili in ONE round. Your "prime" Morales KOd Jamili in NINE rounds. Pac KOd MAB in just ONE fight. Your "prime" Morales couldnt KO MAB in a HUNDRED fights. "Prime" Morales got beaten up by InjinChi, the same fighter who said he wouldnt fight Pac because "Pac is just too much for me".

                  I could've come up with a hundred more reasons, but these should suffice.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by bigsmoothh
                    do u think pac could brutally k.o. ricardo "el finito" lopez. just wonderin.
                    at 130 DEFINITELY!!! ... lol

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                      Defense - PAC and Juan are hittable

                      Julio switched southpaw - but Julio isn't really a southpaw, he didn't know how to defend from a southpaw stance, it was actually worse for him.
                      I just don't think it's an advantage cuz Juan's pretty accurate with the right hand.

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