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  • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
    Juan Diaz is just one of those fighters that I am awed at... I don't know how someone can keep on throwing like that without punching himself out... I've never seen anyone busier... Pac is a busy fighter and I am at awe at his work rate as well but I think Diaz is a little busier than Pac...If Pac can bring his power effectively to 135lbs than its over for diaz... If he can't hurt diaz' its over for Pac... Diaz seems to have a really good chin... Its all about the weight. Diaz is significantly bigger and I've never seen him hurt ever...will see!!! hope im wrong
    VERY GOOD OBSERVATION & ASSESMENT..NOT UNLIKE OTHERS FOR JUST THE SAKE OF POSTING PUTTING INSIGHTS THAT HAS NO BEARING AT ALL...THUMBS UP...!!!!

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    • Originally posted by rica9475 View Post
      ANOTHER TYPE OF PERSON WHO UNTIL NOW STILL DENIES THE VERY FACT OF D PACMAN'S CAPABILITY....SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO SHAMEFULL!!!!
      I'm not denying anything from Pacquiao. Just look at older tapes of guys like Barerra if you can't see what I'm saying. Compare the old, sluggish looking versions of Morales and MAB in their two most recent fights and then compare them to their respective selves against each other from MAB-Morales I. If you can't see a DRASTIC deterioration of skills and reflexes from father time against a 28 year old guy in Pac then you're letting object nationalism blind you.

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      • Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
        Gee.

        Could it be that 90% of the posters in this thread are either Pinoys or Pac Nuthuggers? I point out facts with clear objectivity.

        You defending Pac and talking about how he's Jesus is pretty ******ed.
        What facts are you pointing out? That Floyd fights the best while Pac doesn't?

        Those are not facts, those are opinions. Opinions of the most ****** kind, but then your kind wasnt much.

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        • Originally posted by MightyMikeA View Post
          These poor Mexicans are freaking OLD now, Manny needs to stop beating dead horses;

          We knew what the outcome of Pac-Morales 3 was going to be. We knew what the outcome of Pac-Barerra 2 was going to be and we know the outcome of Pac-JMM 2 if it should happen.

          These guys are all approaching mid 30s and for 130 and after countless wars they are OLD.

          Manny needs to step it up against new challenges. He's starting to become like the JT of the little guys, trying to coast his way to glory against no hopers. These Mexicans are just names now, they're old and need to rest.

          He needs to go to 135 or at least fight Guzman or Valero before he does.
          if i follow your lead, Guzman is also at his 30's, therefore ALREADY OLD ...

          so it only leaves valero and soto AS young challengers!!

          BUT last time i checked JMM is still within TOP 10 p4p ... how can a p4p fighter be a NO HOPER??

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          • Originally posted by MightyMikeA View Post
            These poor Mexicans are freaking OLD now, Manny needs to stop beating dead horses;

            We knew what the outcome of Pac-Morales 3 was going to be. We knew what the outcome of Pac-Barerra 2 was going to be and we know the outcome of Pac-JMM 2 if it should happen.

            These guys are all approaching mid 30s and for 130 and after countless wars they are OLD.

            Manny needs to step it up against new challenges. He's starting to become like the JT of the little guys, trying to coast his way to glory against no hopers. These Mexicans are just names now, they're old and need to rest.

            He needs to go to 135 or at least fight Guzman or Valero before he does.
            all those fights were warranted. Pac-Morales three was a needed rubbermatch. Pac-Barerra 2 also needed to happen, problem was MAB lost to JMM. In this board, people are divided in Pac-JMM 2.
            You know what, I know that Barrera and Morales weren't at their prime, but seems like they just got a lot older after fighting Pac.

            I also think calling them "no-hopers: is a wee bit of a stretch.

            Oh yeah, JMM got old fighting no one.

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            • Originally posted by joepal View Post
              What facts are you pointing out? That Floyd fights the best while Pac doesn't?

              Those are not facts, those are opinions. Opinions of the most ****** kind, but then your kind wasnt much.
              Facts.

              1. Pac floored JMM 3 times in the first round.

              2. Every single round after the first was relatively close......but the clear edge in the majority of them should have been given to JMM because of accuracy and ring generalship.



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              • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
                You seem so sure about that... No problems with your opinions but I guess Its a loss loss for Pac with dudes like you because there seems to be no glory for guys like Pacquiao... What will it take for Pacquiao to earn the respect from doubters like yourself... We cannot rewind time but you seem to be certain about your assertions. I think you are the type of person that finds consolation in assertions that cannot be proven... Ok thats fine. Your opinion is just that; an opinion. Even though Pac kd jmm 3 times and got a draw by admitted mistake from a judge that would have Pac winning. I think JMM was in his prime then..
                Like I said, even if Pac beats all the Diaz champs they'd still not give him his props.

                They hate for a living, these haters.

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                • Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                  Facts.

                  1. Pac floored JMM 3 times in the first round.

                  2. Every single round after the first was relatively close......but the clear edge in the majority of them should have been given to JMM because of accuracy and ring generalship.

                  sorry man, I don't see how relatively close = clear edge.

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                  • Originally posted by m00ks View Post
                    all those fights were warranted. Pac-Morales three was a needed rubbermatch. Pac-Barerra 2 also needed to happen, problem was MAB lost to JMM. In this board, people are divided in Pac-JMM 2.
                    You know what, I know that Barrera and Morales weren't at their prime, but seems like they just got a lot older after fighting Pac.

                    I also think calling them "no-hopers: is a wee bit of a stretch.

                    Oh yeah, JMM got old fighting no one.
                    They are getting smarter, making the excuse before the fight... They say Jmm will be different, he's not shot, not battle worn, young in boxing years... These are from the people that are certain JMM will win the rematch... For those not so certain I guess the excuses are comming in earlier.

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                    • Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                      Let me ask you something. When was the last time you watched that fight? Because if you watched it with most of your other rowdy pacquiao fan friends.....you might have been a tad bit overwhelmed with excitement in the first round when Pac floored JMM 3 times.

                      Because outside of that he was given a straight up boxing clinic where he was losing rounds rapidly. In fact the best thing that could have happened to Pac was that he floored JMM 3 times, because if he hadn't............he would have clearly lost a UD in a landslide fashion.

                      Rounds with Knock downs, and especially more than one..........tend to cause errors in scoring judgment based on personal bias.
                      You of all people, talking about BIAS?

                      Pac didnt win a single round after the first round? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                      Talk about being objective.

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