No way Manny beats Juan Diaz
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I'm not denying anything from Pacquiao. Just look at older tapes of guys like Barerra if you can't see what I'm saying. Compare the old, sluggish looking versions of Morales and MAB in their two most recent fights and then compare them to their respective selves against each other from MAB-Morales I. If you can't see a DRASTIC deterioration of skills and reflexes from father time against a 28 year old guy in Pac then you're letting object nationalism blind you.Comment
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What facts are you pointing out? That Floyd fights the best while Pac doesn't?
Those are not facts, those are opinions. Opinions of the most ****** kind, but then your kind wasnt much.Comment
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if i follow your lead, Guzman is also at his 30's, therefore ALREADY OLD ...These poor Mexicans are freaking OLD now, Manny needs to stop beating dead horses;
We knew what the outcome of Pac-Morales 3 was going to be. We knew what the outcome of Pac-Barerra 2 was going to be and we know the outcome of Pac-JMM 2 if it should happen.
These guys are all approaching mid 30s and for 130 and after countless wars they are OLD.
Manny needs to step it up against new challenges. He's starting to become like the JT of the little guys, trying to coast his way to glory against no hopers. These Mexicans are just names now, they're old and need to rest.
He needs to go to 135 or at least fight Guzman or Valero before he does.
so it only leaves valero and soto AS young challengers!!
BUT last time i checked JMM is still within TOP 10 p4p ... how can a p4p fighter be a NO HOPER??Comment
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all those fights were warranted. Pac-Morales three was a needed rubbermatch. Pac-Barerra 2 also needed to happen, problem was MAB lost to JMM. In this board, people are divided in Pac-JMM 2.These poor Mexicans are freaking OLD now, Manny needs to stop beating dead horses;
We knew what the outcome of Pac-Morales 3 was going to be. We knew what the outcome of Pac-Barerra 2 was going to be and we know the outcome of Pac-JMM 2 if it should happen.
These guys are all approaching mid 30s and for 130 and after countless wars they are OLD.
Manny needs to step it up against new challenges. He's starting to become like the JT of the little guys, trying to coast his way to glory against no hopers. These Mexicans are just names now, they're old and need to rest.
He needs to go to 135 or at least fight Guzman or Valero before he does.
You know what, I know that Barrera and Morales weren't at their prime, but seems like they just got a lot older after fighting Pac.
I also think calling them "no-hopers: is a wee bit of a stretch.
Oh yeah, JMM got old fighting no one.Comment
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Facts.
1. Pac floored JMM 3 times in the first round.
2. Every single round after the first was relatively close......but the clear edge in the majority of them should have been given to JMM because of accuracy and ring generalship.
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Like I said, even if Pac beats all the Diaz champs they'd still not give him his props.You seem so sure about that... No problems with your opinions but I guess Its a loss loss for Pac with dudes like you because there seems to be no glory for guys like Pacquiao... What will it take for Pacquiao to earn the respect from doubters like yourself... We cannot rewind time but you seem to be certain about your assertions. I think you are the type of person that finds consolation in assertions that cannot be proven... Ok thats fine. Your opinion is just that; an opinion. Even though Pac kd jmm 3 times and got a draw by admitted mistake from a judge that would have Pac winning. I think JMM was in his prime then..
They hate for a living, these haters.Comment
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sorry man, I don't see how relatively close = clear edge.Comment
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They are getting smarter, making the excuse before the fight... They say Jmm will be different, he's not shot, not battle worn, young in boxing years... These are from the people that are certain JMM will win the rematch... For those not so certain I guess the excuses are comming in earlier.all those fights were warranted. Pac-Morales three was a needed rubbermatch. Pac-Barerra 2 also needed to happen, problem was MAB lost to JMM. In this board, people are divided in Pac-JMM 2.
You know what, I know that Barrera and Morales weren't at their prime, but seems like they just got a lot older after fighting Pac.
I also think calling them "no-hopers: is a wee bit of a stretch.
Oh yeah, JMM got old fighting no one.Comment
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You of all people, talking about BIAS?Let me ask you something. When was the last time you watched that fight? Because if you watched it with most of your other rowdy pacquiao fan friends.....you might have been a tad bit overwhelmed with excitement in the first round when Pac floored JMM 3 times.
Because outside of that he was given a straight up boxing clinic where he was losing rounds rapidly. In fact the best thing that could have happened to Pac was that he floored JMM 3 times, because if he hadn't............he would have clearly lost a UD in a landslide fashion.
Rounds with Knock downs, and especially more than one..........tend to cause errors in scoring judgment based on personal bias.
Pac didnt win a single round after the first round? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Talk about being objective.Comment
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