The Ugly Truth: Weight Classes Are An ABSOLUTE FARCE.

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  • Energy
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    #71
    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
    No,its called exercise out what you ate,and eat less,but dont eat not healthy. Ive cut 10 pounds in 3 days once,and was healthy.Its not hard when you know what you're doing,and have a great metabolism. Dont think nothing is impossible just because you cant do it.
    I don't have a weight problem. Losing 15 pounds a week to most people is a myth that's why I was asking. It's easier said than done. Anyone can come in here and say I lose 10lbs a day. The reality is, a very small percentage is able to do that. A lot of people in here are misleading and throw out ridiculous, unrealistic numbers. Not anybody can do it, it's hard, I've seen people fail at it 99% of the time.

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    • squealpiggy
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      #72
      Lots of fighters would carry out the same weight cutting practices while there were same day weigh-ins. The result? Many more fatalities in the ring as a dehydrated human body has less fluid protecting the brain from impact. Suggesting that moving back to same day weigh-ins would solve the problem of fighters draining to make weight is naive.

      Furthermore this topic does seem to be a thinly disguised tribute to Floyd Mayweather Junior, the man who is so above the seedier aspects of the sport he doesn't use dehydration to make weight for his fights. He fights at the same weight he walks around at or close to. Apart from his first 31 fights in which he cut weight the same way everyone else does...

      Dios, I thought you said Hatton is smaller than Floyd...

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      • brently1979
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        #73
        I agree with the thread starter, Boxing is becoming too much about weight.

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        • Drunken Cat
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          #74
          Originally posted by Energy
          I don't have a weight problem. Losing 15 pounds a week to most people is a myth that's why I was asking. It's easier said than done. Anyone can come in here and say I lose 10lbs a day. The reality is, a very small percentage is able to do that. A lot of people in here are misleading and throw out ridiculous, unrealistic numbers. Not anybody can do it, it's hard, I've seen people fail at it 99% of the time.
          Actually, you could not be more wrong. 15 pounds is not that much. I use to cut from between 140-145 to 130 each and every week. Anyone can do it, it just takes very hard workouts, discipline, and more discipline. This is what i mean when i say those who have not cut weight are in no possition to judge.

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          • BmoreBrawler
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            #75
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            Dios, I thought you said Hatton is smaller than Floyd...
            That depends on what he's trying to say. If he's trying to degrade Hatton, Hatton is smaller. If he's trying to defend Mayweather's decision to fight Hatton, Hatton is the bigger fighter.

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            • Verstyle
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              #76
              Originally posted by Energy
              I don't have a weight problem. Losing 15 pounds a week to most people is a myth that's why I was asking. It's easier said than done. Anyone can come in here and say I lose 10lbs a day. The reality is, a very small percentage is able to do that. A lot of people in here are misleading and throw out ridiculous, unrealistic numbers. Not anybody can do it, it's hard, I've seen people fail at it 99% of the time.
              You obviously dont know me.haha. I had to cut weight for wrestling for 3 years in high school also. Im pretty muscular with very little fat on me and I sweat like a 400lber. I rarely gain weight also.Losing it is quite easy for me. Ive lost almost 25 pounds in 2 months already.Healthy too.

              Once again,just because you havnt see it,(which I have plenty of times) doesnt mean its impossible. Lets be open minded about things,shall we?

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              • shawn_
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                #77
                Cutting weight is the process of dehydrating yourself. If you feel draining 2+gallons of water from from your body is healthy.....

                What ever, Im arguing with people who dont understand the deference between cutting fat and cutting water.

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                • Drunken Cat
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by shawn_
                  Cutting weight is the process of dehydrating yourself. If you feel draining 2+gallons of water from from your body is healthy.....

                  What ever, Im arguing with people who dont understand the deference between cutting fat and cutting water.
                  Healthy?? No. Reality?? Yes.

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                  • Joartcc3
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    I was watching the Pacquiao-Barrera card closely this weekend. While watching, I took particular notice of the fighters' weights. The following are actual fight-night weights. Not the fake "weigh-in" weights.

                    Panchito Bojado was 159 on fight night, and Steve Forbes was 156. For a (supposedly) Junior Welterweight bout.

                    Antonio Davis was 140 for a featherweight bout.

                    Marco Antonio Barrera was 138 for his SFW bout.

                    MANNY PACQUIAO WAS 144 POUNDS COMPLETELY RIPPED.

                    Now, we have all known for awhile that the weigh-in procedures need to change. But the weigh-in for a big fight has become (appropriately) another marketing event, and it is hard to do that on fight day. At least for a big PPV fight.

                    Further, Arturo Gatti was 159 lbs and destroyed Gamache. Miguel Cotto was often in the high 150's, and Ricky Hatton has stated that he likes to be 154 on fight night for his JWW bouts, and he was closer to 160 for Collazo.

                    For their weight-disputed fight at lightweight, Castillo and Corrales were 148 amd 149, respectively.

                    Joshua Clottey has been nearly 170 pounds on fight night. Oscar Delahoya was 166 pounds for 'The World Awaits'.

                    I think the pound-for-pound rankings are CLEANER when guys are actually fighting people their own size. For example, nobody thinks it is "unfair" for Mayweather to fight Baldomir & Delahoya who outweigh him by nearly 20 pounds. But the perception would be that it would be "unfair" for PBF to fight Pacquiao, a man four pounds his junior. If Pac can fight a guy six pounds lower, why not four pounds higher? Nahmean?

                    On Dec 8th, Ricky Hatton will outweigh FMJ by six to eight pounds. The same advantage that Floyd would have on Steven Luevano, WBO titlist @ 126.

                    Zab Judah is 150 on fight night. He can slide down to 140 and make a rematch with Witter, or a "Battle for Brooklyn" with Malignaggi. He is too small for Cintron and Margarito, etc.

                    Bernard Hopkins played a "weight game" by having a lower weigh-in than Oscar. In truth, Hop turned pro at LHW and now admits that he was stripping himself for years to make middleweight.

                    Personally, I don't care what division a guy fights at. I use the true number of fight-night weights to determine who can and should be fighting each other. Would it be "fair" for PBF to dry out on fight week and to go dominate a bunch of lightweights?

                    I would prefer to have "day of" weigh-ins, or at least get rid of all the "junior thises" and "super thats". Go back to the classic divisions: 126, 135, 147, 160, 175, Cruiser, and heavy. You will notice that I added in Cruiser. Because I do not feel that it would be "fair" for Bernard Hopkins to decide to move up in weight, and have to go fight Shannon Briggs or Wlad. The new heavies are too damn big. 175 to 250++ is just too big a jump.
                    Sori dude. You're just whining coz Mab got outboxed big time.

                    Here's a candy for your trouble...

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                    • totalstranga
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                      #80
                      cutting weight is a part of the sport, champ. just like jogging, sparring, etc. If you have a problem with it, then watch wrasslin. then you can get behind a guy like Cena who always wins. pfft

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