The Ugly Truth: Weight Classes Are An ABSOLUTE FARCE.

[SkillspayBills]

Mayfeather fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir at 147 INSTEAD of Mosley, Williams or Cotto. Do you honestly believe if there was only one belt that any of those first 3 clowns could beat any of the second three?

You do realize when he faced the first 3 the second three weren't legitimate factors at 147 yet right? The second 3 could all get a shot at Floyd, well 2 of the 3 will.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Wait a minute. Stop defending your idol. You have a decent thread going. Don't destroy your own thread by being hypocritical. Floyd is the modern day king of the business plan and you know it. The issue here has nothing to do with his talent which is admittedly admirable.

Address the issue. In post #103, Gav said it would be "IMPOSSIBLE" for Mayweather to have accumulated his five weight class championships. You said "EXACTLY RIGHT".

I just factually showed you how that is exactly wrong. With the exception of Gatti, FMJ didn't get paper belts. He got RING belts. And he is closing that 140 gap in a month.

Wiley, you are very respectful of Kostya Tszyu. Fine. Well, FMJ is fighting the man who beat the man.

There's no dispute in that.

There ARE guys that your statement applies to. Mayweather isn't one of them.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Mayfeather fought Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir at 147 INSTEAD of Mosley, Williams or Cotto. Do you honestly believe if there was only one belt that any of those first 3 clowns could beat any of the second three?

When Mayweather signed to fight Judah, who was the undisputed WW champion? Judah.

Who did mayweather fight next? The new undisputed WW champion who beat the old undisputed WW champion.

What is the , er, um, dispute there?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I thought for a sec there you were going to claim that DLH was the LEGIT guy at 154 ROFL. ONE fight in 3 years which was against Mayorga (rofl.)

This thread isn't about FMJ, although somebody turned it into that.

But I have never - not once - embellished FMJ's resume.

[Wiley Hyena]

Address the issue. In post #103, Gav said it would be "IMPOSSIBLE" for Mayweather to have accumulated his five weight class championships. You said "EXACTLY RIGHT".

I just factually showed you how that is exactly wrong. With the exception of Gatti, FMJ didn't get paper belts. He got RING belts. And he is closing that 140 gap in a month.

Wiley, you are very respectful of Kostya Tszyu. Fine. Well, FMJ is fighting the man who beat the man.

There's no dispute in that.

There ARE guys that your statement applies to. Mayweather isn't one of them.

I disagree. Mayweather is the modern day poster boy for a flawed system. You know, I don't expect you to agree, but don't be hypocritical. You have admirabley condemned boxers that use steroids, but then admitted your hypocrisy regarding that issue and R. Jones Jr. At some point, the sport has to come first. Don't tell us that what we've seen regarding Floyd is just an illlusion.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I disagree. Mayweather is the modern day poster boy for a flawed system. You know, I don't expect you to agree, but don't be hypocritical. You have admirabley condemned boxers that use steroids, but then admitted your hypocrisy regarding that issue and R. Jones Jr. At some point, the sport has to come first. Don't tell us that what we've seen regarding Floyd is just an illlusion.

I have stated that I showed some hypocrisy in the Roy vs Shane steroids thing. I said that even before you did. That is not the issue here.

What I am asking you is to address the challenge I made to your assertion. How am I wrong??

You said that FMJ wouldn't have been that multi-weight champ. I showed you clearly that he would have. But you won't admit that you were wrong.

[RisAri0]

tho I do agree somewhat on this topic...

However, u can't suggest a weigh in on the day of can u?...wouldn't work that way becuz u wouldn't want a boxer fail his weigh in on the day of the fight...would create alot of mad, pissed off ticket buyers knowing there's no main event..I say if it aint broke, don't fix it... I say let the boxers balloon up or stay whatever weight they're comforable in on fight night...its all part of the strategy/fight game to whatever weight they're great at...everything goes after the weigh-in, think about it that way.....the weigh in is probly the worse part to these boxers I bet...but I wouldn't know, I'm just a fan...

[Wiley Hyena]

I have stated that I showed some hypocrisy in the Roy vs Shane steroids thing. I said that even before you did. That is not the issue here.

What I am asking you is to address the challenge I made to your assertion. How am I wrong??

You said that FMJ wouldn't have been that multi-weight champ. I showed you clearly that he would have. But you won't admit that you were wrong.

Here's what was said:

Originally Posted by gavinz1970
"If you cut out the supers and juniors and got back to one belt, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for fighters like Mayweather to pick and choose "champs" and rack up 5 belts in different divisions.

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
THAT IT EXACTLY RIGHT. The cynical "superstar" system would be destroyed and we could get back to who is truly the MAN at each weight. This adds credibility and interest that the sport has not seen in many, many years."
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Here are the divisions at issue:

Super Featherweight /
Junior Lightweight 126 to 130 lbs
Lightweight 130 to 135 lbs
Super Lightweight /
Junior Welterweight 135 to 140 lbs
Welterweight 140 to 147 lbs
Super Welterweight 147 to 154 lbs - (69.853 kilos)
Junior Middleweight - 147 to 154 lbs (69.853 kilos)
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Now take out the supers and the juniors and unify all the belts into one universal championship belt. Now.....do the math.

Instead of 6 divisions and 18 belts to choose from, you would have one belt for the following:

Lightweight
Welterweight
Middleweight

No way does Floyd compete for the Middleweight belt. So now we have the Lightweight and Welterweight belts and all the top competition fighting for the belts against TWO champions. Who would those champs have been from 2003-2007?? Some possibilities include TSZYU at WW. Another possibility is COTTO at WW. Another possibility is MOSELY at WW. The list goes on. When Mayweather moves out of the Lightweight division he has severe problems being a multi belt holder under the old system.

[Naps]

Post #1 was well thought out, factually correct, and I agree with it completely.

Just a shame he couldn't make the post without pulling out his usual, and frankly now boring, Mayweather arse-licking. I just don't get it, we all have our fave fighters, but it seems to be somewhat an obsession with Mr Dominicano.