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  • crillz
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    #11
    Originally posted by Addison
    You're predicting that Cotto will headhunt Mosley until the accumilation becomes too much??... Hmmmmm... Interesting...

    So I take it you like Cotto's power upstairs?

    I'm pretty sure the majority of serious Cotto advocates don't see Miguel doing very well without his signature body work.. You believe he's going to beat his toughest opponent to date without his bread and butter?....?
    I didn't mean Cotto wasn't going to be landing that body shot, as stated earlier in that post you quoted I said Shane is one of those who has exceptional conditioning in his body so the only way to hurt him really is to the face, once stunned in the face just about any boxer is gonna feel twice the pain from them body blows, I know Cotto's best punch is his hook to the body but his best chance here is to stun Mosley upstairs and take away equilibrium real quick, **** up his thinking ya dig, I doubt off of straight up body punching Cotto will be able to knock Mosley out, Mosley is too much of a skilled boxer he wont allow but so many shots to land before he does some **** to take him out of harms way..

    his body is built for that punishment so he could take it and keep going but once he gets hit right on that button, a super hook or overhand right that Mosley doesn't see he can rock his whole melon top, he can throw him off his game for a second, long enough to creep up on him and land some crazy blows but the key is to catch him with the hardest punch you can throw upstairs and rock him, stuns him first then carry on, Mosley CAN go around all that, I give him his respect but I just think Cotto's barrage of punches will accumilate and he'll hit him upstairs with a punch that will bring Mosley down a notch, put him on spaghetti legs and eventually stop him but it ain't that he wont need that hook to the body it's that the money shot is to the face..

    thas where Shane is most vulnerable because his body is tougher than his chin, Vernon could have landed those same blows that knocked Shane down to the body and Shane would have been up still but those head shots ****s you up all over, anyone else the body is the way to go, that IS how you take speed away from a speedy fight but against Shane it might help when you DO land but you most likely wont phase him but a punch to the face that dazed his vision, I seen him go down from that before against someone who isn't as relentless as Cotto so what you think is gonna happen when the hardest puncher in the WW division rocks him to the face the same way or worse??.. 100

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      #12
      I'll say this and it's as clear as a sunny day. Collazo can't carry Quintana's jock. Collazo is perhaps one of the most overrated WW due to his close loss to Ricky. I guess having a close fight with Ricky will do that for you. Quintana's one of the most underrated WW due to his loss to Cotto. By now we all see the pattern, don't we? If you have some success against either Cotto or Hatton, you're the real deal, however, if you lose you ain't nothing. Remember folks, styles make fights and Mosley's style is right down Cotto's left hook valley.

      Btw, have u guys seen Mosley's fights at WW with Estrada and Jose Luis Cruz?
      These guys were slow mother ****ers who were finding Shane all night. Cotto looks like turboman compared to the last 3 guys Mosley has faced at WW.

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      • revs1227
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        #13
        i agree with hopkins i think its gonna be hopkins trinidad 2 !
        but cottos still undefeated

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          An esteemed member here who bet on Cotto mentioned to me he felt that Judah let Cotto off the hook the first time we spoke after the fight. I still hadn't seen it yet.. I didn't know what to expect.

          When I was watching the fight I noticed Judah was just not throwing. Maybe it was the low blows, maybe it was just Zab - but he wasn't throwing. He let Cotto walk him down. Just let him do it.. Manny Steward kept saying the whole time "...I don't know why Zab isn't hitting him, he's (Cotto) right there to be hit..."

          Anytime Judah would throw more than a pawing jab or defensive right hook he was freezing Cotto in his tracks with the harder stuff. Even the ones that were less memorable.. Cotto did not react well at all when he was the guy being hit. He would short circuit.

          His programmers have to work on that.

          That new software still has some bugs.


          For those who know Mosley this is quite a scenario..

          If Shane hits even remotely close to as hard as Zab - or harder, as Oscar De La Hoya has asserted, this fight isn't going to last very long.

          In a simple scenario its; Cotto comes forward, hurts Mosley in the body, Mosley counterpunches Cotto with blinding flury and he's stunned.

          Repeat.

          Until Cotto is out.

          When Shane gets hit with a good shot he unloads with these wild haymakers and sweeping power punches. Instantly.

          Mosley isn't going to stop punching. That's going to be a problem for Cotto.

          Cotto likes to intiate. Cotto likes to throw power shots that bust guys up.. Mosley is going to square the two of them up for each and every power shot Cotto lands and keep things dead even. Mosley is not going to fold up his arms and let Cotto punch on his head and body. He's going to answer hard. It will be a test of chins and armor all the way.

          How can Cotto win a chin and armor contest with Shane Mosley?

          Shane will equal the force of Cotto's shots and likely exceed them. It will be interesting to see who has to back off once they start exchanging.. Two of Shane's best punches are his sneaky lead right hand and his lead left hook. HIGHEST grade professional level lead power shots. Cotto hasn't had to contend with this type arsenal yet. Fast combinations, and not just the kind that Malignaggi can produce.. Mustard shots. Intelligently well placed uppercuts and body punches.. Some of these punches are short, some of them long, some are straight, some are arced..
          Mosley has it all.

          Cotto is the classic dish-it-out-but-can't-take-it..

          This isn't going to be a tactical fight. It's going to be a beard contest.

          We'll have to see who's left standing..

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            #15
            Cotto just like Pavlik is the most vulnerable during the early rounds. Cotto just like Pavlik wins all wars of attrition. I need to teach you guys how to make picks but if I do that I won't be able to take all your money.

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              #16
              Originally posted by pesticid
              Cotto just like Pavlik is the most vulnerable during the early rounds. Cotto just like Pavlik wins all wars of attrition. I need to teach you guys how to make picks but if I do that I won't be able to take all your money.
              Pavlik has an iron chin.

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                #17
                Pavlik's been down more times than Cotto has, let's put this way. Cotto hasn't been hurt since he was struggliong to make weight at 140.

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                  #18
                  After watching and listening to the commentators, I think Shane is one of the greatest competitors to ever join this sport.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pesticid
                    Pavlik's been down more times than Cotto has, let's put this way. Cotto hasn't been hurt since he was struggliong to make weight at 140.
                    Cotto hasn't been hurt???

                    Judah hurt him 3 times.

                    The fact is; Cotto's handlers have kept punchers the **** away from him almost entirely for the most part.

                    Pavlik has been fighting some pretty ****ing big boys who can punch.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Addison
                      An esteemed member here who bet on Cotto mentioned to me he felt that Judah let Cotto off the hook the first time we spoke after the fight. I still hadn't seen it yet.. I didn't know what to expect.

                      When I was watching the fight I noticed Judah was just not throwing. Maybe it was the low blows, maybe it was just Zab - but he wasn't throwing. He let Cotto walk him down. Just let him do it.. Manny Steward kept saying the whole time "...I don't know why Zab isn't hitting him, he's (Cotto) right there to be hit..."

                      Anytime Judah would throw more than a pawing jab or defensive right hook he was freezing Cotto in his tracks with the harder stuff. Even the ones that were less memorable.. Cotto did not react well at all when he was the guy being hit. He would short circuit.

                      His programmers have to work on that.

                      That new software still has some bugs.


                      For those who know Mosley this is quite a scenario..

                      If Shane hits even remotely close to as hard as Zab - or harder, as Oscar De La Hoya has asserted, this fight isn't going to last very long.

                      In a simple scenario its; Cotto comes forward, hurts Mosley in the body, Mosley counterpunches Cotto with blinding flury and he's stunned.

                      Repeat.

                      Until Cotto is out.

                      When Shane gets hit with a good shot he unloads with these wild haymakers and sweeping power punches. Instantly.

                      Mosley isn't going to stop punching. That's going to be a problem for Cotto.

                      Cotto likes to intiate. Cotto likes to throw power shots that bust guys up.. Mosley is going to square the two of them up for each and every power shot Cotto lands and keep things dead even. Mosley is not going to fold up his arms and let Cotto punch on his head and body. He's going to answer hard. It will be a test of chins and armor all the way.

                      How can Cotto win a chin and armor contest with Shane Mosley?

                      Shane will equal the force of Cotto's shots and likely exceed them. It will be interesting to see who has to back off once they start exchanging.. Two of Shane's best punches are his sneaky lead right hand and his lead left hook. HIGHEST grade professional level lead power shots. Cotto hasn't had to contend with this type arsenal yet. Fast combinations, and not just the kind that Malignaggi can produce.. Mustard shots. Intelligently well placed uppercuts and body punches.. Some of these punches are short, some of them long, some are straight, some are arced..
                      Mosley has it all.

                      Cotto is the classic dish-it-out-but-can't-take-it..

                      This isn't going to be a tactical fight. It's going to be a beard contest.

                      We'll have to see who's left standing..
                      Ummm.. What?? Cotto can't take what he gives? so I take it you didn't see him fight Torres? true that the other 2 known times he was hurt was against Judah and Corley but Corley is no push over, he rocked the **** out of Mayweather, people made threads behind the way he rocked the best P4P fighter today, he did it when Floyd was younger, faster and since his opponents were lighter he hit harder, Corley did that to him so a guy with his experience is someone I expect to do that to Cotto, even still Cotto maneuvered and fought his way back into the **** Kelly Pavlik style, he adjusted and kept it pushing and yea Zab hurt him but he didn't overwhelm him, even if he did Cotto can take a good punch, against Torres Cotto was out on his feet, he was hurt to the point I just stood silent and Cotto took it, he took the same **** he gave and kept coming then mounts up enough balls to KO him, Torres was like 28-0, 26 KO's or something like that so he definitely hit Cotto with what Cotto be hitting people with accept he adjusted, everybody keep talking about Mosley's skills but people forget Cotto isn't a ****** fighter, if Judah would have ended up letting that straight right go Cotto would have done some **** to get past that too, he knows how to win above everything else.. and he certainly has a good enough beard to throw down with Shane.. Guaranteed. 100

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