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  • Sweet Pea 50
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    #31
    P4P never really meant **** to me. It's on some "What if some lightweight all of a sudden went Super Saiyan 3 and got up to 235 pounds, could he beat Lennox Lewis" type ****. I just look at it at who are the best at their division. Who have they beat. Even though Pac didn't give the performance I thought he was last night, he still dominated a HOF fighter in Barrera. For the SECOND time. So if your into that P4P deal, and don't have Pac in your top 5, then I don't know what to tell you.

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      #32
      Originally posted by sweet pea 50
      P4P never really meant **** to me. It's on some "What if some lightweight all of a sudden went Super Saiyan 3 and got up to 235 pounds, could he beat Lennox Lewis" type ****. I just look at it at who are the best at their division. Who have they beat. Even though Pac didn't give the performance I thought he was last night, he still dominated a HOF fighter in Barrera. For the SECOND time. So if your into that P4P deal, and don't have Pac in your top 5, then I don't know what to tell you.
      I think pac retains the number 2 spot off that. He should have went for the kill and didn,t it was obvious he had the power,speed and brawling edge in the fight.

      Barrera tried to survive and did. Alot hangs now on what Mosley and Mayweather do. If Mosley beats cotto convincingly, and Mayweather loses, I see Pac moving to 1 Hatton 2 and Shane 3 winner of Calzaghi/kessler 4 and Mayweather dropping to 5 or lower.

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      • Wiley Hyena
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        #33
        Originally posted by sweet pea 50
        P4P never really meant **** to me. It's on some "What if some lightweight all of a sudden went Super Saiyan 3 and got up to 235 pounds, could he beat Lennox Lewis" type ****. I just look at it at who are the best at their division. Who have they beat. Even though Pac didn't give the performance I thought he was last night, he still dominated a HOF fighter in Barrera. For the SECOND time. So if your into that P4P deal, and don't have Pac in your top 5, then I don't know what to tell you.
        Pac has not cherry picked as far as I can see. He ran thru the Mexicans like a knife thru butter and that's saying something. Although he should have spent his time last night fighting a prime contender, he did beat a HOF boxer convincingly. IMO Pac is #1 p4p, regardless of the rankings.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          Pac has not cherry picked as far as I can see. He ran thru the Mexicans like a knife thru butter and that's saying something. Although he should have spent his time last night fighting a prime contender, he did beat a HOF boxer convincingly. IMO Pac is #1 p4p, regardless of the rankings.
          Of course Pac isn't #1.. His last fight was **** and he's only beaten old mexicans at the end of their career and couldn't get past the #3 p4p fighter.

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            #35
            No disrespect to Pac, hes great, but when it comes to boxing talent Floyd is on another level.
            Hes clearly p4p #1.
            Last edited by Easy-E; 10-07-2007, 12:40 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by sonofisis
              Of course Pac isn't #1.. His last fight was **** and he's only beaten old mexicans at the end of their career and couldn't get past the #3 p4p fighter.
              That was an impressive string of "old Mexicans" that Pac's beaten. I suspect that if it weren't for Pac, those "old Mexicans" would still be dominating everybody.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                That was an impressive string of "old Mexicans"
                that Pac's beaten.
                Please name more than two (Barrera and Morales).. Exaggerating doesn't help..

                I suspect that if it weren't for Pac, those "old Mexicans" would still be dominating everybody.
                Not really.. As soon as Morales beat Pac man, Morales turned around and got beat by Zahir Raheem. After that moment, it was down hill. Barrera also had been fighting for over 14 years and had many wars before he ran into Pac man. This is an overstatement, they were clearly on their way down..

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sonofisis
                  Please name more than two (Barrera and Morales).. Exaggerating doesn't help..



                  Not really.. As soon as Morales beat Pac man, Morales turned around and got beat by Zahir Raheem. After that moment, it was down hill. Barrera also had been fighting for over 14 years and had many wars before he ran into Pac man. This is an overstatement, they were clearly on their way down..
                  How many times did he fight Morales and Barrera? No need to exaggerate, and don't forget Marquez, who IMO he also beat. How many fights is that? I think it could legitimately be called "a string". And all HOF.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    How many times did he fight Morales and Barrera? No need to exaggerate, and don't forget Marquez, who IMO he also beat.
                    Wiley.. You wrote: "That was an impressive string of "old Mexicans"
                    that Pac's beaten.
                    "

                    ^I then ask you to name more than 2 and you cop-out by telling me that he fought these respective fighters more than once, and then give me some subjective opinion about you thinking that Pac beat Marquez, even though he didn't. Therefore, my point still stands since you were unable to name more than two of the same over-the-hill fighters who were both out of there primes and far removed from their younger years.

                    How many fights is that?
                    Moving the goal post. He beat two of the same old fighters. Beating up on old men over and over is not impressive. The fact that they are HOFs makes it notable, but not impressive.

                    I think it could legitimately be called "a string".
                    Because you love overstating so it seems. A "string" of fights with the same old fighters yes, but no fresh blood.

                    And all HOF.
                    I already took that into consideration, so what?

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                      #40
                      Where in my post did I mention Pac cherry picked his opponents? Are you trying to piss me off Wily Coyote? I know who your refering to with that cherry picked comment. It doesn't matter to me. Like I said before, P4P doesn't mean **** to me.

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