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  • joepal
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    #11
    Originally posted by mbandit
    Well first of all ,Pac is not the p4p king,mayweather is.And second David Diaz is a light hitting,curde fighter with no defense or boxing thecnique.He is by far the worst champ in the light weight division.And he still beat morales add that to Morales losing his last 5 out of 6 fights and that confirms that he is shot.Oh yhea and Morales does have a h.o.f career.
    Pac is the consensus p4p king. Boxing is a GLOBAL sport. The Chinese, Filipinos, or all Asians for that matter are not impressed with Floyd Mayweather. So do the Europeans. But the same people are impressed with the boxer named Manny Pacquiao. Very frigging IMPRESSED.

    David Diaz is a champ of a HIGHER weight. What Morales did was a feat.

    Of course Morales lost 5 out of 6. He fought the p4p king 3X for chrissakes!

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    • MaYaN_SuN
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      #12
      Originally posted by joepal
      So if he looked healthier you wouldnt call him shot?
      No I'm sayin it was beyond evident that he shouldn't have moved back down after losing to Rahim. He tried to make it a brawl at a more comfortable weight and wasn't able to match that explosiveness he had. And what does he do? He drains and starves himself for a fight with Paq, not a smart move. Especially for a guy who's fought more and better competition then Paq's entire career, Paq's record is filled with bum ass Flip fighters, Morales' record is filled with the best of his time.

      But from what I hear, it's hard for Boxer's to give up the sport. And for Morales to go a few fights past his mark and retire, that does show some sense of discipline. Good for him for realizing that it's his time and moving on.

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      • -Mbandit-
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        #13
        Originally posted by joepal
        Pac is the consensus p4p king. Boxing is a GLOBAL sport. The Chinese, Filipinos, or all Asians for that matter are not impressed with Floyd Mayweather. So do the Europeans. But the same people are impressed with the boxer named Manny Pacquiao. Very frigging IMPRESSED.

        David Diaz is a champ of a HIGHER weight. What Morales did was a feat.

        Of course Morales lost 5 out of 6. He fought the p4p king 3X for chrissakes!
        Well in most of the websites and in the very respected ring magazine Mayweather is consdered the p4p king.Of course you are going to say Pac is the p4p king cuz obviously you are a fan of his.But anyways what Morales did is in no way a feat.Don't you know he has been struggling with his weight for the past few fights?I can assure you he felt more energized and comfortable in 135 than in 130.And like I said Diaz is the worst title holder of the 135.Why do you think Morales's people went with him.Cuz they know he is at the end of his career therefore they went with the weakest of the beltholders.What do you think would have happened if he fought Juan Diaz?Diaz would have moped the floor with him. So don't make it seem like he did this incredible thing and went up and fought some great fighter.If morales wasnt shot he should have taken care of Diaz rather easily but he didn't.He lost.Any ways yes he fought your so called "p4p king" 3 times but he beat him once.And pac beat him 2 times so therefore 3 other fighters beat him ,confirming he is shot.
        Last edited by -Mbandit-; 10-05-2007, 02:03 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by -Hyperion-
          please dont make it sound like morales looked mazing agisnt diaz, i think he clearly won but his legs looked awful....morales wouldve finished diaz in the first round when he dropped him if he was still near his prime...
          I couldn't agree with you more Hyper. I just watched that fight for the first time since August and I believe Morales won the fight but he looked far from great. He looked so slow and pretty weak.
          I think if Morales hadn't have blown out after the first PAC fight his career may have ended better. I think he should have tried to improve his strength before the Diaz fight.
          I don't think I want to see him fight anyone else unless he's stayed in shape and it's Diaz on fair playing ground. I makes me mad that he was robbed of this last victory.

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            #15
            Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
            No I'm sayin it was beyond evident that he shouldn't have moved back down after losing to Rahim. He tried to make it a brawl at a more comfortable weight and wasn't able to match that explosiveness he had. And what does he do? He drains and starves himself for a fight with Paq, not a smart move. Especially for a guy who's fought more and better competition then Paq's entire career, Paq's record is filled with bum ass Flip fighters, Morales' record is filled with the best of his time.

            But from what I hear, it's hard for Boxer's to give up the sport. And for Morales to go a few fights past his mark and retire, that does show some sense of discipline. Good for him for realizing that it's his time and moving on.
            He was talking about trying to get a rematch with Diaz. Not sure what's happening with that.

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              #16
              Pac isnt the p4p king, and Morales was shot against him.
              He looked like **** against Diaz, and lost.

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                #17
                Originally posted by joepal
                Pac is the consensus p4p king. Boxing is a GLOBAL sport. The Chinese, Filipinos, or all Asians for that matter are not impressed with Floyd Mayweather. So do the Europeans. But the same people are impressed with the boxer named Manny Pacquiao. Very frigging IMPRESSED.

                David Diaz is a champ of a HIGHER weight. What Morales did was a feat.

                Of course Morales lost 5 out of 6. He fought the p4p king 3X for chrissakes!
                No, Floyd is the consensus p4p king.
                There is not a legitimate boxing magazine or website that legitimately has Pac as p4p #1.
                The reason why?
                Cause hes not.

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                • joepal
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                  No I'm sayin it was beyond evident that he shouldn't have moved back down after losing to Rahim. He tried to make it a brawl at a more comfortable weight and wasn't able to match that explosiveness he had. And what does he do? He drains and starves himself for a fight with Paq, not a smart move. Especially for a guy who's fought more and better competition then Paq's entire career, Paq's record is filled with bum ass Flip fighters, Morales' record is filled with the best of his time.

                  But from what I hear, it's hard for Boxer's to give up the sport. And for Morales to go a few fights past his mark and retire, that does show some sense of discipline. Good for him for realizing that it's his time and moving on.
                  Bum ass Flip fighters?

                  There goes any pretense of objectivity. Not that I hadn't noticed it from the start.

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                  • joepal
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mbandit
                    Well in most of the websites and in the very respected ring magazine Mayweather is consdered the p4p king.Of course you are going to say Pac is the p4p king cuz obviously you are a fan of his.But anyways what Morales did is in no way a feat.Don't you know he has been struggling with his weight for the past few fights?I can assure you he felt more energized and comfortable in 135 than in 130.And like I said Diaz is the worst title holder of the 135.Why do you think Morales's people went with him.Cuz they know he is at the end of his career therefore they went with the weakest of the beltholders.What do you think would have happened if he fought Juan Diaz?Diaz would have moped the floor with him. So don't make it seem like he did this incredible thing and went up and fought some great fighter.If morales wasnt shot he should have taken care of Diaz rather easily but he didn't.He lost.Any ways yes he fought your so called "p4p king" 3 times but he beat him once.And pac beat him 2 times so therefore 3 other fighters beat him ,confirming he is shot.
                    Diaz wouldve mopped the floor with Morales?

                    This has to be RPOTY. ******ed Post of the Year.

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                    • joepal
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Easy-E
                      Pac isnt the p4p king, and Morales was shot against him.
                      He looked like **** against Diaz, and lost.
                      He hit Diaz more times than Floyd hit DLH, that's for sure!

                      You can't say that he looked **** against Diaz while saying that Floyd looked great against DLH.

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