P4P becoming too much "What have you done lately?"

[boxingfan4life]

So you think P4P means something do you?
I honestly don't see how you can measure it.
Please explain intellectually how it is measured please.

I don't think too much about pound for pound and yes it is hard to measure. I cant really think of a way that it should be measured cause there are alot factors involved.

[moofo]

Just like rankings and every other aspect of the sport.

No one would be able to ever rank anyone.

Except for you, because you have everyone at #0, no one has ever accomplished anything in boxing under your standards.

haha.
The current ranking systems of the WBC WBA WBO are all kosher aren't they?
Why is Jameel Mcline fighting Peter when he clearly doesn't deserve to be?

[boxingfan4life]

haha.
The current ranking systems of the WBC WBA WBO are all kosher aren't they?
Why is Jameel Mcline fighting Peter when he clearly doesn't deserve to be?

Maybe he is the only one available right now. I would say byrd or brock but aren't they about to participate in a four fight tournament to determine the number one contendership for wlads belt? Yeah I think so. I can't think of any other heavyweight to fill in that slot.

[moofo]

Maybe he is the only one available right now. I would say byrd or brock but aren't they about to participate in a four fight tournament to determine the number one contendership for wlads belt? Yeah I think so. I can't think of any other heavyweight to fill in that slot.

Jameel Mcline isnt even ranked top 20.
You telling me there is NO-ONE?

[El Jesus]

I see what you're saying and I think it's a valid point.

I'm not the biggest fan of Pacquiao's style, and I think there are limitations on Manny and an over reliance on improvised athleticism - but a 147 pound Pacquiao is nothing to sneeze at. If an explosive speedster like Zab Judah could connect with Mayweather and hurt him the chances are good that Pacquiao could do the same. Unlike Judah, Pacquiao would sustain his assault or possibly pick it up again in a late round explosion. He's active enough, powerful enough, and relentless enough to make it very interesting.


Regardless of that, I believe most people tend to refer to P4P in the context you feel is overemphasized for three reasons which are connected.

Firstly, styles can play a deceptive and misleading role in certain outcomes.

Secondly, the qualities and characteristics of heavier and lighter weight classes alter the topography of the logistics and aesthetics of each spectrum.

And thirdly, fighters of varying weight class will never actually engage in any reality based scenario which limits the dot connecting that is sometimes nescessary to understand certain outcomes and probabilities.
A fights B fights C fights D, ect.

That would leave most of us guessing, losing each other, and generally straining our imagination past the point of being able to focus properly.

Again though, I think you make a valuable point.

Styles make fights and i think your lack of understanding on style would lead you to think that Pacman could be as tricky as judah to set up a punch that mayweather wouldnt see from a mile away. Pacman would never touch mayweather, lunging in and wailing away would never work on mayweather, ever. JMM shut that **** down, Mayweather would knock him out at that rate at 130.

[Bogler]

Styles make fights and i think your lack of understanding on style would lead you to think that Pacman could be as tricky as judah to set up a punch that mayweather wouldnt see from a mile away. Pacman would never touch mayweather, lunging in and wailing away would never work on mayweather, ever. JMM shut that **** down, Mayweather would knock him out at that rate at 130.

you're still living in 2004.

[El Jesus]

you're still living in 2004.

Im living in reality, Pacman doesnt beat mayweather at any weight, period. His style is perfectly suited for him.

[Addison]

Styles make fights and i think your lack of understanding on style would lead you to think that Pacman could be as tricky as judah to set up a punch that mayweather wouldnt see from a mile away. Pacman would never touch mayweather, lunging in and wailing away would never work on mayweather, ever. JMM shut that **** down, Mayweather would knock him out at that rate at 130.

My lack of understanding?

You must be talking to the wrong guy. You are CLEARLY exhibiting your lack of understanding. Don't think the worlds experts have Manny ranked #1 and #2 across the board because he's utter crap, Mr. Mayweather Is Jesus..

"Never touch Mayweather?"

Floyd Mayweather is a great fighter with exceptional skills - but he is far from untouchable. Particularly by quick handed southpaws. Don't worry about JUST the lunging. Let Floyd do that so he gets hit by the right hook..

(see Corley almost knock his ***** ass out, and Judah knock his ***** ass down. )

[boxingfan4life]

Jameel Mcline isnt even ranked top 20.
You telling me there is NO-ONE?

Well there is Rahman, Briggs, and even liakovitch. I believe theire ranked above mccline but maybe their just not available. It makes no sense and it seems like a easy victory for peter.

[moofo]

Well there is Rahman, Briggs, and even liakovitch. I believe theire ranked above mccline but maybe their just not available. It makes no sense and it seems like a easy victory for peter.

I agree.
And its a shame no-one else has been making noise to step up.