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  • SkillspayBills
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    #221
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    No....Hatton v. Tszyu was not a "superfight" fight because Hatton at that time was relatively unknown to the American consumer and because Hatton was a big time underdog. You cannot compare the PPV drawing power of Hatton at that time with the PPV drawing power of Floyd at that time.

    Could he have done both? Of course, but would he have done both? IMO the answer is NO, not as long as Tszyu was in championship form. Too dangerous. Maybe he could have fought Tszyu right off the bat after moving to 140. Maybe soon thereafter. But, nothing of the sort was ever seriously attempted by Floyd.

    I think it's an interesting question to ask: What if Tszyu would have beaten Hatton? Would we still be waiting for the big fight with Tszyu? Let's see... Tszyu is 38 years old or so right now....


    Your bias shows again. It's OBVIOUS that Floyd wanted to establish himself as a ppv star by defeating Gatti than face Tszyu in another superfight, actually this is the 4th time Floyd has planned to fight someone in a superfight and the bastard ends up losing before the fight could happen.

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    • BmoreBrawler
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      #222
      why are we talking about a retired boxer floyd may or may not have ducked years ago, when he stated that he would duck Miguel Cotto less than a month ago?

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        #223
        Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
        why are we talking about a retired boxer floyd may or may not have ducked years ago, when he stated that he would duck Miguel Cotto less than a month ago?
        So let's not hate on Floyd for one thing and let's hate on him for another. Haters need to get lives, seriously.

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        • RodBarker
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          #224
          Ive asked you this directly before Wiley , and you run away from a serious answer , are you between a rock and a hard place trying to answer it .

          What will you make of it in the context of this thread and many others where you have claimed Mayweather could not beat KT ,,,, if Floyd beats Hatton ?

          And are you aware that Hatton is better now than when he beat KT , by Hattons own words he is now in the best form and condition of his life ?

          Simple question , why is it so difficult for you answer Wiley ?

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #225
            Originally posted by skilspaydabills
            So let's not hate on Floyd for one thing and let's hate on him for another. Haters need to get lives, seriously.
            NO. We're talking about a pattern now. Brawler makes an excellent point.

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            • RodBarker
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              #226
              Your the biggest ducker around here Wiley , you should not start any threads about ducking running or anything of the sort ,, then again you are an expert at it .

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #227
                Originally posted by RodBarker
                Ive asked you this directly before Wiley , and you run away from a serious answer , are you between a rock and a hard place trying to answer it .

                What will you make of it in the context of this thread and many others where you have claimed Mayweather could not beat KT ,,,, if Floyd beats Hatton ?

                And are you aware that Hatton is better now than when he beat KT , by Hattons own words he is now in the best form and condition of his life ?

                Simple question , why is it so difficult for you answer Wiley ?
                I see the point you are trying to make. But, I don't see where you get off saying I have forever refused to address it.

                First of all, your point doesn't address the issue of what happened with Floyd when he was at 140. Tszyu was the man at that time at that weight and he was a proven knock out artist. Dangerous man. It's no stretch to see why Floyd would have not been excited about taking him on. My point is just that simple. But, YES I do believe Tszyu would have taken him out. IMO Tszyu had the style, skill, and power to dispose of Floyd. He proved over and over again that he knew how to deal with slicksters. IMO Floyd would have been no different.

                But, you want me to triangulate this thing by saying that if Floyd beats Hatton, then he could have beaten Tszyu. This is comparing apples to oranges because Hatton's style is completely different than Floyd's. The fact is that Tszyu had problems with swarmers like Hatton. On the other hand, he ate up slicksters.

                Second, if you want to rely on an assumption that Hatton is better now than when he fought Tszyu, that's up to you. I rely on the evidence, not on some purported statements that Hatton is at his best right now. All I have to do is watch the fight between Tszyu and Hatton to see what Hatton was like then. As far as the Floyd fight goes, we'll just have to wait and see how Hatton looks. That's the best evidence isn't it?

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
                  why are we talking about a retired boxer floyd may or may not have ducked years ago, when he stated that he would duck Miguel Cotto less than a month ago?
                  when did he say that about cotto?tszyu never beat anyone except judah and mitchell so why do people think he could beat mayweather.tszyu's fight with mitchell was a close fight and the only reason tszyu won that fight was becuase of sharnba's knee giving out.

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                  • BmoreBrawler
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by eric maldonado
                    when did he say that about cotto?tszyu never beat anyone except judah and mitchell so why do people think he could beat mayweather.tszyu's fight with mitchell was a close fight and the only reason tszyu won that fight was becuase of sharnba's knee giving out.

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                    • RodBarker
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                      #230
                      No problems Wiley ,, I have asked you many times that question ,,,, I dont go with the part that you will decide if Hatton is better now untill after the fact , to me that kind off covers your ass because if Floyd beats him you will say Hatton has slipped , Hatton and his trainer have openly reported that he is a much better fighter now and is peaking career wise if you cannot take thier word for it you have no concept of burden of proof ,,,, you have also picked Floyd to get beaten by Hatton ,,,, my point is you cant have it both ways ,,,, I mean we all have opinions but you attack Floyd personally at every turn and when all is said and done if he beats Hatton you should be man enough to give him credit for doing something your idol could not do , because on the other foot you will sink the boot in if Hatton beats him ,,, Dec 9 will be very interesting in here and I hope people on the loosing side which ever that may be can give the winner his dues .

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