De La Hoya Leans Toward Barrera To Win

[PRboxingfan]

Very well said. I think that many people are picking Manny to win because of what happened during their first meeting. After 11 rounds Barrera wasn't able to stop Pacquiao's attack. So what do you will he do to stop Pacquiao's attack for their rematch? It seems to me that he tried to outbox Pacquiao in their first fight but was unable to do so. Do you think he will be able to do it during the rematch?

Well, MAB had many problems outside the ring before that fight and claims he wasn't able to train and concentrate properly. MAB will use the strategy employed by JMM in rounds 3-12 when he fought Pac. Barrara will stay at a distance and when Manny throws, he'll counterpunch beautifully (remember, MAB is still one of the best counterpunchers in the game today). MAB also has speed so Manny better watch out.

I'm telling you guys, MAB wins UD.

[realheavyhands]

So true, when Marquez is focused there is nobody that can get close to him. Best counters (as felt by Pacquiao), and one of the best finishers in the game too. Fight Night 4 better include JMM.

i still think barerra is a little better then marquez.. marquez is good but barerra beat him up ..and i think barerra will beat pac and get more credit after that win

[uclanemesis]

i still think barerra is a little better then marquez.. marquez is good but barerra beat him up ..and i think barerra will beat pac and get more credit after that win

I just like Marquez because he makes it seem so easy, like he's a textbook definition of what a technical fighter is. But yes, I think they can both beat Pacquaio with the right gameplan. Barrera better not go in there and try to trade with Pacquiao cuz he's been known to do that and he's paid dearly. But he's also been known to dominate opponents who are stronger and faster than he is by being mentally focused on sticking to a gameplan.

[merjohn32]

The problem with Marco is that a lot of times during his career he got overly aggressive. He is hot headed and wants to exchange when it isn't necessary. Pacquiao is so strong that one of those shots will definitely make you pay, but Pacquiao is also a fighter that needs to be working so he feels he is making a difference. If you analyze what happened against JMM, Pacquiao is always going forward and pressing the action, the reason JMM was able to do so well and win so many rounds is that he was just sitting back and picking off Pac's shots and countering succesfully. There aren't many exchanges in that fight where JMM chased down Pac and beat him, he was waiting for Pac to beat himself and dig his own grave, which worked to some extent. Morales was way stronger than anybody in that division when Pac met him. That's why Morales won. After a few losses Morales was broken and Pac destroyed him. Marco is neither as technically sound as Marquez nor as strong as barrera, but he is a smart fighter. He knows how to play into somebody's desperation better than anybody. I think if he manages to frustrate Pacquiao enough to make Pacquiao rush him, then he could have a lot of success because when Pacquiao is attacking he forgets about his guard. I think that can be the only thing that Marco can exploit at this point because Pac is too strong and too fast. I still see Marco being able to do this against Pacquiao, and people shouldn't count him out.

Good point. Pacquiao does tend to be out of control when he goes into the offensive. So your basically saying that Barrera should attack Pacquiao when he is unbalanced. If Barrera can indeed use that opportunity to discourage Pacquiao then he has a chance to win. However, I also think that if Pacquiao can sustain his attacks like he did in the first fight, he will wear Barrera down and stop him in the late rounds. Unless, Barrera can discourage Pacquiao from attacking non-stop, Pacquiao I think will overwhelm him.

[merjohn32]

Well, MAB had many problems outside the ring before that fight and claims he wasn't able to train and concentrate properly. MAB will use the strategy employed by JMM in rounds 3-12 when he fought Pac. Barrara will stay at a distance and when Manny throws, he'll counterpunch beautifully (remember, MAB is still one of the best counterpunchers in the game today). MAB also has speed so Manny better watch out.

I'm telling you guys, MAB wins UD.

Still, you can't take away anything from Pacquiao from winning that fight. If Pacquiao was not in his best form that night, I don't think he would win. You said that "MAB is still one of the best counterpunchers in the game today" and I agree. However, he was unable to counter Pacquiao in their first meeting. He tried to adjust to Pacquiao's style but Pacquiao was still able to overwhelm him. Unless he has the power the discourage Pacquiao from attacking constantly then he will be overwhelmed again.

[uclanemesis]

Good point. Pacquiao does tend to be out of control when he goes into the offensive. So your basically saying that Barrera should attack Pacquiao when he is unbalanced. If Barrera can indeed use that opportunity to discourage Pacquiao then he has a chance to win. However, I also think that if Pacquiao can sustain his attacks like he did in the first fight, he will wear Barrera down and stop him in the late rounds. Unless, Barrera can discourage Pacquiao from attacking non-stop, Pacquiao I think will overwhelm him.

Yeah but see, the point isn't to discourage Manny from attacking. He'll never be able to do that, Manny will attack and attack because that's what he knows how to do. He knows how to keep going until he knocks the other guy out. The point is to make him pay when he attacks by countering when Manny rushes in. It's gonna be a tough fight for Barrera, it won't be easy to fend off Pacquiao when he's coming at you throwing hundreds of power shots. It's gonna take a lot of concentration for Barrera to stand a chance in that fight, it's unlikely that Pac will get tired or discouraged but I think it's a very realistic possibility that Barrera will wait for Pacquiao to attack and counter. That's the only way Barrera stands a chance. I think the reason Pac overwhelmed Morales is because Morales knew he couldn't beat Pac, and Pac just kept coming forward. It's a lot easier to manipulate an aggressive fighter's moves when you stand back and let him come to you than when you meet him head on. Pac is like a hurricane when he comes at you so if you try and do the same then you have no chance of winning.

[crillz]

Barrera can win this fight if he trains with 100%, he could dead ass win the fight if he gives Manny a 40% brawl and a 60% boxing lesson. Manny Pacquiao isn't built to hang with on point boxers, Marquez came back from 3 knockdowns in the first round and numerous rounds lost to get a draw meaning that for the rest of their fight there wasn't much Pacquiao did to sway the judges opinion his way and mine too, Pac is only good to get you riled up when you drunk, up off ya chair screaming "YEAAAAAAAAAAAA!" every time he he lands a big one but a boxer like Barrera BEING ON POINT (unlike last time, thas why theres a rematch) can neutralize his offense through good movement, good defense and use of his jab.

don't get me wrong though Pacquiao got skills when he wants, he can move his head and swing ferociously after every movement but a good boxer can weather the storm and Barrera is that boxer, Barrera HAS one more hoorah left in him guaranteed and in this fight he's going to come in with something to prove. if Pacquiao can bring out the beast in Barrera and make him fight then this fight ends no later than the 8th round wioth Barrera seriously hurt, Marco doesn't have THAT much left in him where he can withstand an all out war but if he can maintain at least 20% of that boxing ability against Pacquiao it will be enough to slip him out of those tough spots he will find himself in..

the whiole thing for Barrera is to make sure he doesn't get caught in any corners and when Manny starts throwing too many punches just jab, counter and move. Barrera just has to fight his fight and neutralize Pacquiao, punch when necessary but when those necessary times come punch with the force of his whole career, punch with every fiber in his being and really aim to freeze Pacquiao, like a Round 3 Haymaker and just rock his whole melon then just disappear, as long as Barrera makes himself hard to hit he can win and do it making Pac look silly, missing wild punches and looking like Darchinyan BUT if there's anybody in that division who can bring the heat to a fighter so much that he can make them switch up their whole plan and fumble the fight it's Manny Pacquiao, that little guy just doesn't stop coming at you..

I pick Barrera to win by either a late round stoppage or a decision because all he has to do is box him early on all while punching him back, once the championship rounds come he can bring his own onslaught of punches to Pac, he can rock him and just obliterate him later on, Pac is so aggressive that he's too aggressive so if Barrera can save energy until at least the 10th-12th and THEN lash out when the chance is given he will find himself landing harder and backing Pac up which is when he will fold, Pac always has that knockout to his benefit and it WILL be an explosive fight BUT Barrera can box when he sets his mind to it, he can work around the edges and get out of tight spots, even though he's known for being a great Mexican warrior he has done a little of everything whil Manny was always known for one thing and thats brawling, I think Barrera has what it takes to beat Pacquiao because this fight contributes to his legacy, when he retires he would want to say I beat him too and I think he will, I don't hold that knockout past Pacquiao and I know that him killing Barrera is more likely but something just tells me Pac is not going to get past this fight, Marco is too devoted to winning and as of late I been hearing that Pac has been ****ing around, who knows right but I say Barrera.. 100

[uclanemesis]

that's a perfect synopsis of what I think will happen. It's gonna be a tough one for Barrera but I think he might have a slight mental edge and that will make all the difference.

[Papa Ace]

Pacquiao is mostly an offensive fighter, that's what I think he was referring to. Have you not seen the way Barrera handles fighters that mostly come forward? If Freddy Roach doesn't anticipate some hard counters and a lot of lead left hooks then Pacquiao may be in for a long night. What I hate about the whole thing is that when MAB gives Manny a boxing lesson, many Filipinos are gonna come out saying that MAB is a ***** for not fighting him straight up, and for "running".

I just watched the latest TV interview on Marco and he was quoted as saying that Manny is a thorn to him, by beating him badly and for beating up a lot of Mexicans, he wants to exact revenge for him and his people.

For your pleasure, I will not be the one to not give full credit to Marco if he chose to bring his bicycle in the ring just to win. He needs it.

For a country proud of a battalion of world champions, needing a bicycle just to pin down the only boxer plaguing them... geez... tough to swallow man...

[merjohn32]

Yeah but see, the point isn't to discourage Manny from attacking. He'll never be able to do that, Manny will attack and attack because that's what he knows how to do. He knows how to keep going until he knocks the other guy out. The point is to make him pay when he attacks by countering when Manny rushes in. It's gonna be a tough fight for Barrera, it won't be easy to fend off Pacquiao when he's coming at you throwing hundreds of power shots. It's gonna take a lot of concentration for Barrera to stand a chance in that fight, it's unlikely that Pac will get tired or discouraged but I think it's a very realistic possibility that Barrera will wait for Pacquiao to attack and counter. That's the only way Barrera stands a chance. I think the reason Pac overwhelmed Morales is because Morales knew he couldn't beat Pac, and Pac just kept coming forward. It's a lot easier to manipulate an aggressive fighter's moves when you stand back and let him come to you than when you meet him head on. Pac is like a hurricane when he comes at you so if you try and do the same then you have no chance of winning.

OK, so that's what your trying to say. However, I think that in order for that plan to succeed Barrera has to be in superb shape to be able to counter Pacquiao for twelve rounds. Even if Barrera tries to counter Pacquiao, ultimately some of Pacquiao punches will connect and if Barrera tires in the later rounds and Pacquiao can sustain his attack then the fight will be over. Anyway, the only way for us to really be able to find out the outcome is when they meet in the ring again. I consider Barrera a dangerous opponent and Pacquiao needs his A game to pull out another stoppage victory.