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  • uclanemesis
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    #21
    the other picture was tight, the one with PBF and Sugar Ray Robinson

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      #22
      Originally posted by uclanemesis
      Morales was a broken man when he fought Pacquiao for the 3rd time. At that point he didn't think he could win anymore, MAB does actually think he can win, or else he wouldn't take this fight. Barrera is a very studious man, and if he's already seen a weakness he can exploit then Manny better watch out. I don't know but it doesn't seem like Pac fans actually know anything about boxing other than the fact that Pacquiao knocks people out.
      This is true...I don't know much about boxing but Pacquiao. Pacquiao is the best there is and he knocks people out! Go Pac.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Chups
        This is true...I don't know much about boxing but Pacquiao. Pacquiao is the best there is and he knocks people out! Go Pac.
        The intricacies of combat and the skills of each particular fighter are what make the fight interesting. If it wasn't an artful sport full of graceful and controlled movements aimed at besting your opponent then we'd just have bareknuckle drunken brawling to entertain us. I am just saying Barrera is superior technically than most fighters 10 years younger than he is, and he has shown he can change his style to adapt to any fight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by uclanemesis
          The intricacies of combat and the skills of each particular fighter are what make the fight interesting. If it wasn't an artful sport full of graceful and controlled movements aimed at besting your opponent then we'd just have bareknuckle drunken brawling to entertain us. I am just saying Barrera is superior technically than most fighters 10 years younger than he is, and he has shown he can change his style to adapt to any fight.
          Steamrolled.

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            #25
            barerra is technically the best fighter in the world

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              #26
              Originally posted by realheavyhands
              barerra is technically the best fighter in the world
              That title belongs to Marquez.

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              • uclanemesis
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                #27
                Originally posted by Chups
                Steamrolled.

                We'll see I guess. We'll see when Pacquiao is gone and you guys have nothing left to cheer about. How long do you think this will last for you guys? Pacquiao would still lose to Juan Manuel Marquez. That fight probably won't happen but if it does it's gonna be so so sweet to see not Mexico vs Phillipines but superior technical skill vs pure raw power. Also, on a sidenote, I hate how people are always talking about when Manny "used to be a one dimensional fighter". What the hell does that even mean? Just because he can throw with his right hand as well? wow, that's an amazing feat! I think some people due for a reality check this time around. Its a case of bull vs bullfighter, and you cant beat a bull straight up like Barrera tried to do. This time I think it will be different, Barrera is probably the smartest fighter in the game and he'll show that. If I knew how to bet points I'd bet all of my 450 points or whatever I have on MAB.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chups
                  That title belongs to Marquez.
                  So true, when Marquez is focused there is nobody that can get close to him. Best counters (as felt by Pacquiao), and one of the best finishers in the game too. Fight Night 4 better include JMM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by uclanemesis
                    We'll see I guess. We'll see when Pacquiao is gone and you guys have nothing left to cheer about. How long do you think this will last for you guys? Pacquiao would still lose to Juan Manuel Marquez. That fight probably won't happen but if it does it's gonna be so so sweet to see not Mexico vs Phillipines but superior technical skill vs pure raw power. Also, on a sidenote, I hate how people are always talking about when Manny "used to be a one dimensional fighter". What the hell does that even mean? Just because he can throw with his right hand as well? wow, that's an amazing feat! I think some people due for a reality check this time around. Its a case of bull vs bullfighter, and you cant beat a bull straight up like Barrera tried to do. This time I think it will be different, Barrera is probably the smartest fighter in the game and he'll show that. If I knew how to bet points I'd bet all of my 450 points or whatever I have on MAB.
                    Very well said. I think that many people are picking Manny to win because of what happened during their first meeting. After 11 rounds Barrera wasn't able to stop Pacquiao's attack. So what do you will he do to stop Pacquiao's attack for their rematch? It seems to me that he tried to outbox Pacquiao in their first fight but was unable to do so. Do you think he will be able to do it during the rematch?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by merjohn32
                      Very well said. I think that many people are picking Manny to win because of what happened during their first meeting. After 11 rounds Barrera wasn't able to stop Pacquiao's attack. So what do you will he do to stop Pacquiao's attack for their rematch? It seems to me that he tried to outbox Pacquiao in their first fight but was unable to do so. Do you think he will be able to do it during the rematch?
                      The problem with Marco is that a lot of times during his career he got overly aggressive. He is hot headed and wants to exchange when it isn't necessary. Pacquiao is so strong that one of those shots will definitely make you pay, but Pacquiao is also a fighter that needs to be working so he feels he is making a difference. If you analyze what happened against JMM, Pacquiao is always going forward and pressing the action, the reason JMM was able to do so well and win so many rounds is that he was just sitting back and picking off Pac's shots and countering succesfully. There aren't many exchanges in that fight where JMM chased down Pac and beat him, he was waiting for Pac to beat himself and dig his own grave, which worked to some extent. Morales was way stronger than anybody in that division when Pac met him. That's why Morales won. After a few losses Morales was broken and Pac destroyed him. Marco is neither as technically sound as Marquez nor as strong as barrera, but he is a smart fighter. He knows how to play into somebody's desperation better than anybody. I think if he manages to frustrate Pacquiao enough to make Pacquiao rush him, then he could have a lot of success because when Pacquiao is attacking he forgets about his guard. I think that can be the only thing that Marco can exploit at this point because Pac is too strong and too fast. I still see Marco being able to do this against Pacquiao, and people shouldn't count him out.

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