Pernell Whitaker is overrated on these forums

[Mech.]

Kayjay?...........

[Vladimir303]

if youre talking head-to-head matchup, Id say Whitaker wins. Judah was giving Mayweather a tough fight with his speed and southpaw stance until he started falling apart.

Blackirish

How do you think Zab started falling apart? Did he fall apart against Cory Spinks when he knocked him out in the 11th? No, floyd made him fall apart by changing his game plan from boxing from the outside to putting the pressure on him as Roger Mayweather instructed him to do. And it worked

[Vladimir303]

You do know that Allan Green is gay right

No he is not. Bud judging from your name you are

[Vladimir303]

You're an idiot! Pernell would torch PBF! You want to talk about overated, I give you Floyd Mayweather Jr., boring overated chump with the most annoying fans on the planet!

Sweet Pea in his prime is pound for pound THE BEST fighter in boxing history. Yeah, I said it!

That's exactly what I was talking about. You're overrating him and you probably didn't even see him fight.

[Vladimir303]

Floyd is probably slightly better than Whitaker, as far as overall skills. I would say that Whitaker was more entertaining. His defense was disrespectful..LOL

Entertaining my ass. I remember back then how people were talking how borring he was. I disagree because I'm a fan of pure boxing skills. I can always appriciate a blood and guts fight but that's not why I am a boxing fan.

Anyway your oppinion probably comes from watching mixed youtube highlights or The contender editing out all the borring stuff and making it look like a Rocky movie.

[Maxy]

If anything Pernell is underrated. He was a remarkable boxer, a genuine all-time-great and a fighter who ducked no-one. I mean, he didn't lose a fight until he was over the hill (the Ramirez decision was absolutely appawling) and he fought everyone.

Maybe there are a few on here who base their judgements from you tube highlights, but from a personal standpoint I watched him from the olympics onwards and beleive he's the best boxer P4P of the last 20 years.

[Vladimir303]

Pernell's defense was not based on pure athletic ability. The fact that he could slip every punch in a flurry was, but his defensive skills are technically perfect, and he NEVER pulls strait back from punches, unlike one Floyd Mayweather.

Pernell's defensive was amazing up until the end of his career. He probably could have fought on longer, but he couldn't stay at those lower weights, and he was too small to be effective in his older age at the higher weights.

Floyd does not pull back and even if he does he covers up unlike pernell. The guy's defense came purely from moving his head. He never covered up with his gloves. Take a look at this:



Floyd can and did all of this vs a bunch of fighters, the differece is he doesn't do it the entire fight waisting energy moving his head like this. Floyd's defense comes from covering up (shoulder roll and defensive shell a ala winky wright) and moving his head where pernell only moves and slips punches.

[pelonxsoldier28]

Now I'm not saying he is not a great fighter. He is but people are so pumping him up now that he is retired and most of them only saw Youtube highlights of him and parrot what other people are saying about him. I just had to say this after I read the "who is better, floyd or pernell" thread. Pernell is being so pumped up high it kind of reminds me of the The Mike Tyson hype train that when at his best.......he was unbeatable. Anyway this isn't about Tyson it's about Pernell and being compared to Floyd mayweather.

Floyd is obviously better. Yes I said obviously and let me explain. Floyd's defense is better for longevity. Pernell's defense was great too but it was totally different and it worked based on pure reflexes and athleticism. Once he got older his defense wasn't as effective anymore . Smoking Crack didn't help either. Floyd's defense would work even when he is past his prime just like Hopkins's and Winky's defense.........It's more based on fundementals then natural ability.

Offense......again floyd is a lil better overall. More punching power then pernell even as he keept moving up in weight. Pernell was always on a Pauli Malinaggi, Cory spinks level of punching power.

And let's not forget the overall phisique....Floyd is 5'8 with 72" reach and Pernell is only 5'6 with a 27" reach. A great big boxer always beats a great little boxer. Pernell with his reach and height would have to have a totally different style to bother floyd.

well i'm no youtube watcher, i lived threw that era and watched a lot of his fights, pernell was a great fighter, the simple fact that floyd is suppose to be this great fighter right now is the reason everyone is putting down all the greats. like with all great fighters as time goes by people start forgetting their accomplishments. especially when new fight fans come along and just watch **** on youtube, a round here, and a round there, they decide oh this guy ain't so great, and that's the case here. just cause some people watch some fights don't make them an expert. i see floyd being remembered as a pre madonna, a fighter with the best defence, and the biggest **** talker that never delivered a great performance cause he was cursed with a glass jaw family. but i do say floyd has the best defence there ever will be in boxing.

[sterling]

This thread turning into a flame war lol jus reading the first page haha and floyd overrated pernall had better boxing ability.

[kayjay]

Good thread, I made the same one myself.

He was great, but he's the past name the new fans love to hype