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  • MaYaN_SuN
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    #71
    Originally posted by Chups
    And like all great fighters (special mention to Salvador Sanchez) They go down to the level of their opponents. Pac played to the dance of Solis, up until he got cut and felt the urgency to finish the fight. We all know that Pac sandbagged that fight with Larios. Had he been injured like the Solis fight, Larios would not last 12 rounds. How can you even mention that Pac had the hard time against Larios and Solis. Are you saying they are better than Barrera or Morales? That's nuthuggingly ridiculous to claim just to look down upon a fighter's achievements. Why the hell must he train as hard as he did when he trained against Barrera or Morales if he's just gonna take on Larios or Solis or 3K battery. By the way....which fighter could claim that Larios is just a tune-up fight? Yeah great fighters right?
    Read just what I type, not what you imagine I'm typing. I never said he had a hard time with Larios and Solis. I never said Larios and Solis were better then a Barrera and Morales, I'm also not sayin Larios/Solis are completely horrible. I said Larios litterally got through with some punches and was able to push Paq straight backwards at times, the same Larios thats fought like over 60 fights. Larios got knocked down twice and still finished the fight. Vasquez put this guy to sleep twice, early in their fights. That Larios bout was the best on Paq's record if you ask me, Larios is a big tough dude. Paq pulled it off. Solis had some success too against Paq, but neither of those two fighters are big names. I'm not sayin Paq is garbage, I'm sayin when Paq gets in there with the likes of some of these contenders and belt holders, who's last name isnt Barrera or Morales, that's when it's gonna get interesting. I dont think Paq will be able to stay up with em, somthin tells me your boy doesnt have that solid of a chin. Thats one of the great things about this sport, the whole 'lets wait and see' ****. lol..

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    • AIR_KENG
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      #72
      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
      lol I'm not gonna lie, that logic is just ******ed. Morales and MAB put their bodys through more then Paq's entire career. I mean Marco turned pro at 15, Morales at 16, and they both faced 10 times better opposition then Paq's entire career. Yeah, that's not Paq's fault, theres just not enough talent in the islands. I'm just sayin he came at the right time. Towards the end of all these big name career's. Why you think Raheem's young ass out boxed Morales? Juarez almost put Barrera to sleep. I mean why you think they're all ready for retirement? Because, it's their end you ****in moe moe lol. It's a new day with new star's now.

      As for Marquez, he's been noted as already fallin off. Not nearly as fast as you use to be, and criticized for takin too long to get in the ring with Barrera and lettin his best days get behind him. But hes still a worthy opponent beause of that, I mean he got up from 3 early knockdowns to completely dismantle Paq, I don't care who you are, that **** was the real highlight.

      I'm not sayin Paq is garbage, I'm just sayin he's on easy street right now. I mean he couldnt finish Larios, Larios was even able to back him up, Solis even had punches get through and was able to push Paq back. That says alot, somthin tells me Paq will go to sleep soon, once this Barrera stuff is finished. There's alot of young talent in these lower weights, all with pop that Paq wont be able to avoid. And personally, I don't think he'll be able to take a punch from either of em. These guys are right up Paq's alley, none of em come to fights like Erik Morales. Lookin like a boney malnourished old man.
      the problem is everytime they lose you call it quits for them... too bad manny is the one that handed them the loss... you see the point you ****in' ****head?

      pac didn't finish larios because he was putting on a show... he knocked him down twice right? but there was something behind that fight, and surely you won't understand business. and about larios and slois backing him up? LOL. as if pac is the only fighter that fights backwards... your downhill MAB and morales were backed up a lot of times as well by lesser opponents but do you criticize them? no.

      and about the young guns that you're saying, let them come to pac... you don't expect him to beg to fight juarez, sotto, guzman... they are the fighters not wanting to make the fight happen... so much like JMM...

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      • miron_lang
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        • -Hyperion-
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          #74
          Originally posted by AIR_KENG
          the problem is everytime they lose you call it quits for them... too bad manny is the one that handed them the loss... you see the point you ****in' ****head?

          pac didn't finish larios because he was putting on a show... he knocked him down twice right? but there was something behind that fight, and surely you won't understand business. and about larios and slois backing him up? LOL. as if pac is the only fighter that fights backwards... your downhill MAB and morales were backed up a lot of times as well by lesser opponents but do you criticize them? no.

          and about the young guns that you're saying, let them come to pac... you don't expect him to beg to fight juarez, sotto, guzman... they are the fighters not wanting to make the fight happen... so much like JMM...
          Yeah, Manny handed losses to Morales.....oh wait RAHEEM did it first! by out boxing the **** out of him....this same shot Morales outboxed Pacquiao for 5 rounds.....before his legs gave out....

          And theres no denying Pac hasn't fought a meaningful fight since 2004(lost 1 in the road, by the way).... i mean wasnt Morales a stepping stone for a rematch with Barrera?............and isnnt Barrera a guy he already oblitarated?.....and Joan GUzman, Humberto Soto, etc arent worthy of a fight with pac, but Velazquez, Larios and Solis are...

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            #75
            Originally posted by -Hyperion-
            Yeah, Manny handed losses to Morales.....oh wait RAHEEM did it first! by out boxing the **** out of him....this same shot Morales outboxed Pacquiao for 5 rounds.....before his legs gave out....

            And theres no denying Pac hasn't fought a meaningful fight since 2004(lost 1 in the road, by the way).... i mean wasnt Morales a stepping stone for a rematch with Barrera?............and isnnt Barrera a guy he already oblitarated?.....and Joan GUzman, Humberto Soto, etc arent worthy of a fight with pac, but Velazquez, Larios and Solis are...
            every pac win isn't meaningful to you anyway... and who said anything about not WORTHY? i said let them come to pac, let them challenge the best in the division and push to make it happen... the problem is these young guns DONT want to be in there with manny NOW because they know they'll lose...

            and how about the 2nd morales fight? was it round 2 that he held onto the ropes to avoid the KD? did he lose his legs that early? geez...

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            • heder
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              #76
              it's funny to me hearing all these mexiCANTs ***** and moan about pac man.
              but it's also sad because really deep down inside they're still hurting because of what he has done to their heroes.
              pride hurts puto

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #77
                Originally posted by AIR_KENG
                every pac win isn't meaningful to you anyway... and who said anything about not WORTHY? i said let them come to pac, let them challenge the best in the division and push to make it happen... the problem is these young guns DONT want to be in there with manny NOW because they know they'll lose...

                and how about the 2nd morales fight? was it round 2 that he held onto the ropes to avoid the KD? did he lose his legs that early? geez...
                I think it's a real stretch to criticize Pac for fighting Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. A real stretch. In fact, it's more than a stretch. It's a giant pile of horse **** is what it is. Mannie Pacquiao is great. Period.

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                • Fox McCloud
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                  I think it's a real stretch to criticize Pac for fighting Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. A real stretch. In fact, it's more than a stretch. It's a giant pile of horse **** is what it is. Mannie Pacquiao is great. Period.
                  No one is dis*****g his greatness (or no one with a brain anyway), but it is true that the third fight with Morales seemed unnecessary, and this rematch with Barrera is a bad move for Pacquiao. Little credit for a win, a lot of criticism for a loss.

                  He also has not been fighting the up and comer badasses that he should have been.

                  I'm not agreeing with them, but I can see why they would be upset with his choices of matchmaking.

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                  • Wiley Hyena
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    No one is dis*****g his greatness (or no one with a brain anyway), but it is true that the third fight with Morales seemed unnecessary, and this rematch with Barrera is a bad move for Pacquiao. Little credit for a win, a lot of criticism for a loss.

                    He also has not been fighting the up and comer badasses that he should have been.

                    I'm not agreeing with them, but I can see why they would be upset with his choices of matchmaking.
                    I don't see how anybody could be upset by those fights. They were all great fights. I think these people are sour g****s. My god, if Pacquiao can be criticized for his choice of opponents; What does that say for Floyd? It's hypocracy.

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                    • Fox McCloud
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                      I don't see how anybody could be upset by those fights. They were all great fights. I think these people are sour g****s. My god, if Pacquiao can be criticized for his choice of opponents; What does that say for Floyd? It's hypocracy.
                      I see a similarity between their opponent choices... big names that are somewhat old.

                      Barrera/Morales
                      Mitchell/De La Hoya

                      Obviously Mitchell wasn't nearly as good as Barrera or Morales, but neither of them have been P4P #1 like ODLH has.

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