Has Mayweather ever fought a top10 p4p fighter?

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  • deuce_drop
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    #21
    Originally posted by Brandish
    good lookin out hydro. the newbs don't understand that diego was a force at 130 and beat everyone worth mentioning at the lower weights besides floyd
    yes............


    the only thing about chico vs floyd, in chico's defense, is that in that fight leading up to it, chico was dealing with his personal issues and had a jail sentence hanging over his head, which would make it almost impossible to focus straight on anything else other than court, and also chico was leaving 130 because he couldn't make weight there anymore but floyd demanded that the fight be at 130 or he wouldn't fight. corrales being the warrior that he is and was took the fight and said that he would make weight no matter what, and he did and he paid for it because it showed that he was drained in his performance, im not saying that he would've beat floyd because style wise floyd had him beat, but if the fight was at 135 i think that it would have been a completely different fight and not so one sided.

    this is another thing about floyd in this fight against chico, i remember distinctly floyd saying it loud and clear that the fight would have to be at 130 or it wouldn't happen, i remember floyd saying that he would never fight past 130 because that wasn't his natural weight. because if you remember floyd fought augustus at 135 his fight before chico and although he won he had a hell of a time and was getting tagged in there against augustus. emanuel was using his size against floyd pretty well and laying some hard shots on him, after that floyd said he wasn't going to fight above 130. well after getting the negotiations his way and getting the fight against chico in his favor, and after beating chico, floyd moved up in weight after 2 more fights at 130 to fight castillo.

    so what does this all mean, in his fight against corrales floyd used negotiating as leverage (like he should) to have an advantage over corrales in their fight, which gave him a better than usual chance at beating chico, which like i said style wise he had chico's number, and with no disrespect to chico i truely believe that. but you can say that chico was pound for pound at the time when they fought but it can be argued that chico was already grown out of that weight class and had to move up due to natural growth.

    mayweather has fought tough guys and tough guys that were in their prime, only thing is floyd has had those guys beat before even stepping into the ring due to the large gap between his natural talents and discipline and his opponents talents and discipline, basically floyd was the favorite in all those fights, logically speaking, he was supposed to beat them guys.
    chico being the exception, and he vested him too.

    now as far as hatton from what i remember is that hatton was supposed to lose to most of who he's fought and he has won. and although kostya had a long time out of the ring before he fought hatton, but tszyu was only taking big fights just like most champs are doing these days verses fighting at least 4 times in one year and the hatton fight was one of those fights, so you know kostya came prepared to fight, it wasn't like he was shot going into the fight, kostya was in the top 5 of the pound for pound in overall boxing at the time him and hatton fought, floyd and hatton i think are fairly matched you can scrutinize both and make valid points for both and make cases against both, but i personally think that hatton has had the harder opposition because he went into fight where he was supposedly going to lose and he's won, mayweather is expected to beat all who is in front of him and there is a reason for that because he is highly talented and has had his opponents beat with talent alone.............

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #22
      Originally posted by Hydro
      http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...r_Pound--2000s

      2000

      1. Shane Mosley
      2. Felix Trinidad
      3. Roy Jones, Jr.
      4. Oscar De La Hoya
      5. Diego Corrales
      6. Naseem Hamed
      7. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
      8. Lennox Lewis
      9. Erik Morales
      10. Bernard Hopkins

      solid ****in' list.


      Some people (easton) may belittle corrales, but he ONLY lost to the top guys: mayweather, casamayor and castillo.

      He destroyed a very solid manfredy and beat Freitas.

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      • niceguy45
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        #23
        corrales was the only one

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        • DIOS DOMINICANO
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          #24
          Deuce,

          The problem I've always had with the "diego was drained" theory is that Chico fought another 3 or 4 years at SFW. Meanwhile Floyd is the one that moved up in weight....and Floyd has continued to fight at higher weights than Chico.

          Chico just doesn't have the feet to fight Floyd. And PBF was a stiff puncher at 130/135. He would do the same/worse in a rematch at any weight Chico chose.

          Just the wrong guy.

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          • Trevbutler
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            #25
            Originally posted by Tony628
            Is ricky hatton his first REAL test???
            Lol, yeah he has fought a bunch of bums. He has a more impressive record than hatton as far as who he has fought and when he has fought them.

            I feel sorry for floyd kinda, once you get so good people like to hate on you for that and discredit your acomplishments.

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            • DIOS DOMINICANO
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              #26
              Originally posted by deuce_drop

              now as far as hatton from what i remember is that hatton was supposed to lose to most of who he's fought and he has won. and although kostya had a long time out of the ring before he fought hatton, but tszyu was only taking big fights just like most champs are doing these days verses fighting at least 4 times in one year and the hatton fight was one of those fights, so you know kostya came prepared to fight, it wasn't like he was shot going into the fight, kostya was in the top 5 of the pound for pound in overall boxing at the time him and hatton fought, floyd and hatton i think are fairly matched you can scrutinize both and make valid points for both and make cases against both, but i personally think that hatton has had the harder opposition because he went into fight where he was supposedly going to lose and he's won, mayweather is expected to beat all who is in front of him and there is a reason for that because he is highly talented and has had his opponents beat with talent alone.............
              hatton has been an underdog in ONE fight: Tszyu.

              He did well. Full props to him. But let's not act like a 40 yr old Cool Vince or 38 yr old Pendleton with 25 losses were supposed to beat hatton.
              RH was the favourite to castillo. C'mon.

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              • niceguy45
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                #27
                Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                Deuce,

                The problem I've always had with the "diego was drained" theory is that Chico fought another 3 or 4 years at SFW. Meanwhile Floyd is the one that moved up in weight....and Floyd has continued to fight at higher weights than Chico.

                Chico just doesn't have the feet to fight Floyd. And PBF was a stiff puncher at 130/135. He would do the same/worse in a rematch at any weight Chico chose.

                Just the wrong guy.
                true.... i agree just like mosley vs forrest, that;s mosley's nightmare,
                no matter how many times they fight it's gonna be the same,
                same with forrest vs mayorga... gatti vs pbf would have been the same,
                like you said if they would of made corrales vs pbf II it would of been the same outcome

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                • Floydmayweather
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                  #28
                  i disagree with Forret/Mayorga i think Forrest will beat him up now. In the second fight against Mayorga it was close and Forrest had some bad injuries. Now he has his confidence and snap on his punches i think he would take Mayorga out. Peace

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                  • Brandish
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                    #29
                    Deuce,

                    The problem I've always had with the "diego was drained" theory is that Chico fought another 3 or 4 years at SFW. Meanwhile Floyd is the one that moved up in weight....and Floyd has continued to fight at higher weights than Chico.

                    Chico just doesn't have the feet to fight Floyd. And PBF was a stiff puncher at 130/135. He would do the same/worse in a rematch at any weight Chico chose.

                    Just the wrong guy.
                    great post dios you saved me the trouble. if corrales was so drained why did he fight at 130 for another 4 fights.

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                    • Run
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Shanus
                      Corrales hadn't done anything to deserve a top 5 position, people who are today in the position he was back then aren't even in the top 15, just look at Mikkel Kessler, accomplished ALOT more than Corrales had, yet he's only known for being a Calzaghe opponent.

                      Maybe a national bias, or maybe boxing has alot more giants today than it did back then.
                      Kessler accomplished more than Corrales? No way Chief.

                      Chico stopped Smoke Gainer and Angel Manfredy prior to losing to Floyd.



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