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  • beauty
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    #11
    Originally posted by msagrain
    i just think he will win. more power and te presure will be on mayweather.

    You think Hatton can pressure Floyd better than DLH and has more power?

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    • msagrain
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      #12
      Originally posted by beauty
      You think Hatton can pressure Floyd better than DLH and has more power?
      well yes hatton can presure mayweather more than dlh. delhoya even said that himself. and yes imo hatton has a better punch than dlh.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JOM'S
        the last fight that floyd had a problem...

        maybe the first and the last as well, was when he faced a pressure fighter in castillo, although he made it a clear victory int he second...

        now hatton is the epitome of a pressure fighter...

        so lets keep our fingers cross and hope for the best ... lol

        LOL.
        Well, you know I favor Mayweather but I am prepared for any outcome.


        OK, I can understand Castillo. However, many would believe Corrales was a pressure fighter as well, and Floyd slaughtered him. I have seen Floyd handle pressure very well and not so well at times. However, he always seems to recover, no?

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          #14
          Originally posted by msagrain
          well yes hatton can presure mayweather more than dlh. delhoya even said that himself. and yes imo hatton has a better punch than dlh.
          Ok, but you do not see Mayweather's defense being able to offset this? (I am not being combative, just asking questions here.) I'd like to think Mayweather has excellent defense.

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          • JOM'S
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            #15
            Originally posted by beauty
            LOL.
            Well, you know I favor Mayweather but I am prepared for any outcome.

            OK, I can understand Castillo. However, many would believe Corrales was a pressure fighter as well, and Floyd slaughtered him. I have seen Floyd handle pressure very well and not so well at times. However, he always seems to recover, no?
            floyd is definitely good, and could recover and adjust well, and i really don't see him loosing this one with ricky, but like i said i am keeping my fingers crossed for a hatton victory...

            i think hatton could have taken corrales as well...

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            • squealpiggy
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              #16
              Originally posted by beauty
              Do you feel that Floyd's decision to dance is proof he does not take Hatton seriously?



              He says he is training 3 plus times a day, as he always has. He says he is not underestimating Hatton. However, actions do speak louder than words.
              Any coach will tell you that distractions while training are a killer for their fighter. It doesn't matter how much physical training you do, Hatton will be 100% focussed on the fight for 12 weeks. Nothing else will enter his mind, he'll be living and breathing this one fight. Mayweather on the other hand will have up to ten weeks of the same period thinking about dancing.

              Some trainers don't even allow women into the fight camp, because women can interfere with the preparation. Not because of the physical aspect but because they take away the focus from the fighter. Floyd entering Dancing with the Stars is 100% a sign he is overlooking Hatton.

              OK, I can understand Castillo. However, many would believe Corrales was a pressure fighter as well
              Corrales was more of an out and out slugger I think. Hatton picks his shots and is very accurate to the body, just as Castillo is. Corrales was never that type of fighter, he was a big punching guy who happened to throw a lot of punches, whereas Hatton, Castillo and Chavez were always more intelligent applicators of pressure.

              I think that the Chavez fight is more of an indicator of Hatton's chances than the Castillo fight, as Hatton has a similar style. Having said that Hatton is bigger, stronger and more resilient than Jesus Chavez and also uses his feet more intelligently.

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                #17
                What is Mayweather outside of his envelope?

                Helpless.


                It will take a non conventional fighter to beat the master classmen.

                Someone who has the type of mixed bag arsenal, broken rythm, relentlessness, natural ability, and determination to pull Mayweather out of a 3/4 stance and STAY IN HIS FACE.

                Hatton is unique. He does have the special tools for this one.

                Hatton isn't going to go in there and mindlessly pound on Mayweather's gloves. He's going to trap him and throw very determined, very deliberate combinations that strafe all areas of Mayweather's torso and head accruing damage - but primarily confusing and disarming Mayweather in the process.

                De La Hoya demonstrated effectively how to put Mayweather there. Oscar just didn't have the tuck-and-turn kind of assault to open the shell.

                Hatton does.


                If Mayweather can surprise and come forward punching with an aggressive tact; he has the firepower and precision targeting to damage Hatton..

                But when you factor in Hatton's blind fury I think it will take a sledgehammer to keep Ricky down.. Hatton gets on that PCP Angel Dust adrenaline.

                And Floyd doesn't own a sledgehammer.

                People forget; Mayweather really ISN'T going to be able to keep Ricky honest.

                Floyd doesn't have the power, Captain!


                People can talk about Collazo all they want.

                This is NOT going to be THAT Ricky Hatton.

                The majority of observers on either side can agree on and expect that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by beauty
                  Gotcha. I am surprised no one has anyhthing concrete to say, though. So many seem so confident in Hatton's victor, I genuinely want to know why.

                  Maybe I could see things differently. I love Mayweather, but I know that he will not win forever. However, based on what I have seen I am not persuaded that Hatton could hold a torch to him.

                  I want to know more from those who see it the other way around. I'd like to know what I missed because those who have arrived at "Hatton's going to own Mayweather" must have come by it more honestly than the three reasons you provided, which seem to make all of the sense in the world.

                  Guess I was hoping someone who was genuine had some light to shed, ya' know?
                  No, no, no.. There's no gotcha.

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                  • msagrain
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by beauty
                    Ok, but you do not see Mayweather's defense being able to offset this? (I am not being combative, just asking questions here.) I'd like to think Mayweather has excellent defense.
                    i think his defence is good but hatton can defiently get around it. hatton will presure him into makeing mistakes.

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                    • beauty
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by squealpiggy
                      Any coach will tell you that distractions while training are a killer for their fighter. It doesn't matter how much physical training you do, Hatton will be 100% focussed on the fight for 12 weeks. Nothing else will enter his mind, he'll be living and breathing this one fight. Mayweather on the other hand will have up to ten weeks of the same period thinking about dancing.



                      I can agree with this, Squeal.


                      Corrales was never that type of fighter, he was a big punching guy who happened to throw a lot of punches, whereas Hatton, Castillo and Chavez were always more intelligent applicators of pressure.



                      Ok.


                      Many good points.

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