Mayweather-Hatton Conference Thread

[Amir K Shareef]

Why the **** does Zab Judah have the Star of David on his trunks ?

its a gang symbol...

[Amir K Shareef]

No..it was an honest defense, with a little sarcasm. And, you will not believe this, but I'm not an hysterical Hattonite. I like Floyd ok. I just don't think he has lived up to all the hype.

Admit that floyd will win... deep inside u know he will

[southpawWiNKy]

jesus christ, another one of these threads, look, if every boxer, scratch that... every damn person acted the same (nice, polite, P.C., etc.), or however YOU think they should act.... this world a.k.a. pleasantville be a boring as ****... even if it really isn't an act... who the **** cares? either way though... if you on here bashing pretty boy just cause you think he's a ****y bastard, let's bash ALI while you're at it dumb****s

[Wiley Hyena]

Admit that floyd will win... deep inside u know he will

Honestly, I think its about even money. For real. I think Hatton is young, hungry, and strong. He's different from anything Floyd has faced IMO.

[Amir K Shareef]

Honestly, I think its about even money. For real. I think Hatton is young, hungry, and strong. He's different from anything Floyd has faced IMO.

What seperates him from oscar??

[WLAD OWNS]

jesus christ, another one of these threads, look, if every boxer, scratch that... every damn person acted the same (nice, polite, P.C., etc.), or however YOU think they should act.... this world be a boring as ****... even if it really isn't an act... who the **** cares? either way though... if you on here bashing pretty boy just cause you think he's a ****y bastard, let's bash ALI while you're at it dumb****s

Ali was an arrogant racist *******, but at least he had respect for the G.O.A.T. Sugar Ray Robinson and admitted he was a step below him. The dellusional Mayweather has another point of view.

[sonofisis]

Thank you for doing the legwork i was too lazy to do. You are right of course.

I understand Isis's need to be correct. I also understand that he believes what he reads as if it were written in stone.

I for one, do not pretend to understand the depths of our ancient past, but i will say this.

If the truth is ever discovered, we will all most likely be surprised at the outcome as i believe civilization is much older and grander than todays rigid construct would have us believe.

What "legwork"? The fool took out of context some **** that I personally posted on wikipedia and tries to use it against me in an argument. How lame is that? The more insane the assertions get and the more cretins such as yourself and mighty mouse obscure implications by undermining and distorting data/references, the more you help prove my case.

No problem. Every human group and culture that has ever existed on this earth has added to our collective knowledge as a whole but nothing is as it seems and to say that "ebony" people had no contribution at all to Ancient Egypt is just ignorant and nobody is debating this.

More delusions.. The google scholar strikes again! Of course no one is debating that "blacks" had anything to do with Egypt since they've been present there in any traceable amount since earliest times and were the ones (from the South, under king Narmer) who founded the state. So of course it isn't debatable since what I've provided hasn't been refuted.

It's just that when one group tries to entirely usurp and hijack the history of another in the hopes of increasing it's own value then that just impedes our progress altogether. Ya dig, Isis? :-P

This is what I mean by a stolen legacy, continuing to be perpetuated by google scholars and slap stick journalists who can't even hold their own crouch to piss. Who are these imaginary people you're making up in your twisted little mind whose "history" is being "hijacked"?.. You deny the indigenous nature of these early Nile Valley inhabitants and their relationships with other (black) Nile valley Africans, so obviously you have the burden of proof, yet choose to make unattributed claims like this, while your only means of evidence is to copy and paste two out of context and misrepresented quotes that I personally posted on wikipedia. Then choose to ignore everything else perfectly substantiating everything I said, from the skeletal comparisons, to the DNA samples. You are a hopeless bug.

Another thing... The Ancient Egyptian language was an African one, that is part of the Afro-Asiatic language phylum found in Ethiopia, Central, East, and North Africa. It also subsumes semitic, which is younger than the Ancient Egyptian language and Ehret notes that this language comes from the south, along with their material culture.

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Ancient Egyptian civilization was, in ways and to an extent usually not recognized, fundamentally African. The evidence of both language and culture reveals these African roots.

The origins of Egyptian ethnicity lay in the areas south of Egypt. The ancient Egyptian language belonged to the Afrasian family (also called Afroasiatic or, formerly, Hamito-Semitic). The speakers of the earliest Afrasian languages, according to recent studies, were a set of peoples whose lands between 15,000 and 13,000 B.C. stretched from Nubia in the west to far northern Somalia in the east. They supported themselves by gathering wild grains. The first elements of Egyptian culture were laid down two thousand years later, between 12,000 and 10,000 B.C., when some of these Afrasian communities expanded northward into Egypt, bringing with them a language directly ancestral to ancient Egyptian. - Christopher Ehret, Professor of History, African Studies Chair, University of California at Los Angeles (Egypt in Africa, 1996, pp. 25-27 )

I don't fancy myself literate at all. Of course I am comparing myself to the truly literate. You know, Guys like Einstein,Keppler,Hawkings,Bohr and the like. But I'm sure your right on their level ISIS!

I could be wrong but haven't DNA procedures been questionable from the start?

Interpretation plays a role in the procedure and therefore makes the whole process open to debate!

I could also be wrong, but aren't the archetypal references that these measurements of craniums are based on subject to Hypothesis as well?

Therefore couldn't one infer that the data by which the whole procedure is based on be flawed?

Holes all in your **** Isis!

You're wrong about everything you assert or assume here basically. Since you make the questionable claims, how about you elaborate on how precise cranial-measurements and affinity assessments are in any way "hypothetical" and not empirically sound when methods and sample sizes are sound? Same with DNA testing, which is considered 99.9% accurate, and 100% when repeated, which is what scientists do (repeat conclusions).. The Mtdna studies have been repeated here: - Click
^It shows Ethiopians from the Tigray region to cluster closest to modern Egyptians by way of the East African M1 lineage..


You have no basis to doubt these references other than your bias as actually, these are peer-reviewed papers that have seen no contradictions. So continue to spew hot air if you choose, but if you're looking to actually learn and not stagnate yourself, I suggest you start opening your mind, stop being a dumb****, and read a little more.

[Amir K Shareef]

jesus christ, another one of these threads, look, if every boxer, scratch that... every damn person acted the same (nice, polite, P.C., etc.), or however YOU think they should act.... this world a.k.a. pleasantville be a boring as ****... even if it really isn't an act... who the **** cares? either way though... if you on here bashing pretty boy just cause you think he's a ****y bastard, let's bash ALI while you're at it dumb****s

Go suck a ****
we dont need your negative energy bringing this thread down *****

[Amir K Shareef]

What "legwork"? The fool took out of context some **** that I personally posted on wikipedia and tries to use it against me in an argument. How lame is that? The more insane the assertions get and the more cretins such as yourself and mighty mouse obscure implications by undermining and distorting data/references, the more you help prove my case.



More delusions.. The google scholar strikes again! Of course no one is debating that "blacks" had anything to do with Egypt since they've been present there in any traceable amount since earliest times and were the ones (from the South, under king Narmer) who founded the state. So of course it isn't debatable since what I've provided hasn't been refuted.



This is what I mean by a stolen legacy, continuing to be perpetuated by google scholars and slap stick journalists who can't even hold their own couch to piss. Who are these imaginary people you're making up in your twisted little mind whose "history" is being "hijacked".. You deny the indigenous nature of these early Nile Valley inhabitants and their relationships with other (black) Nile valley Africans, so obviously you have the burden of proof, yet choose to make unattributed claims like this, while your only means of evidence is to copy and paste two out of context and misrepresented quotes that I personally posted on wikipedia. Then choose to ignore everything else perfectly substantiating everything I said, from the skeletal comparisons, to the DNA samples. You are a hopeless.

Another thing... The Ancient Egyptian language was an African one, that is part of the Afro-Asiatic language phylum found in Ethioia, Central, East, and North Africa. It also subsumes semitic, which is younger than the Ancient Egyptian language and Ehret notes that this language comes from the south, along with their material culture.

Quote:
Ancient Egyptian civilization was, in ways and to an extent usually not recognized, fundamentally African. The evidence of both language and culture reveals these African roots.

The origins of Egyptian ethnicity lay in the areas south of Egypt. The ancient Egyptian language belonged to the Afrasian family (also called Afroasiatic or, formerly, Hamito-Semitic). The speakers of the earliest Afrasian languages, according to recent studies, were a set of peoples whose lands between 15,000 and 13,000 B.C. stretched from Nubia in the west to far northern Somalia in the east. They supported themselves by gathering wild grains. The first elements of Egyptian culture were laid down two thousand years later, between 12,000 and 10,000 B.C., when some of these Afrasian communities expanded northward into Egypt, bringing with them a language directly ancestral to ancient Egyptian. - Christopher Ehret, Professor of History, African Studies Chair, University of California at Los Angeles (Egypt in Africa, 1996, pp. 25-27 )





You're wrong about everything you assert or assume here basically. Since you make the questionable claims, how about you elaborate on how precise cranial-measurements and affinity assessments are in any way "hypothetical" and not empirically sound when methods and sample sizes are sound? Same with DNA testing, which is considered 99.9% accurate, and 100% when repeated, which is what scientists do (repeat conclusions).. The Mtdna studies have been repeated here: - Click
^It shows Ethiopians from the Tigray region to cluster closest to modern Egyptians by way of the East African M1 lineage..


You have no basis to doubt these references other than your bias as actually, these are peer-reviewed papers that have seen no contradictions. So continue to spew hot air if you choose, but if you're looking to actually learn and not stagnate yourself, I suggest you start opening your mind, stop being a dumb****, and read a little more.

stop writing these long ass paragraphs MY GOD no one reads them

[brently1979]

As Floyd himself has said on more than one occasion that he does this to help sell fights. He really started to bring it on with the Gatti PPV. I find him pretty entertaining to be honest. Especially with him making fun of Oscar.

I think he's a pretty real sorta dude. I actually respect the guy more than I respect any active fighter today. The guy never gets out of shape, he has more dedication to training I have seen in a long time. If DLH had Floyd's work ethic, he wouldn't have so many L's on his record.