How does Ricky Hatton rate against historical 140 pounders?

[Wiley Hyena]

So which fight DO YOU judge hatton on?? Kostya? Castillo? some would say they were past their best.

I like the guy though and hope he wins.

You can't help but judge Hatton on the Tszyu fight. Tszyu in his prime could stand with any in the list. The only question is: Was Tszyu washed up by the time he got to Hatton? It's an open question, but he didn't seem washed up to me in his fights prior to Hatton. Either way, Tszyu was still very formidable by the time he got to Hatton and Hatton proved that his grappling style is effective against even great competition. Therefore, pitting Hatton against the others in the list is a valid proposition. IMO the only certain loss is Roberto Duran. But, that's just my opinion and its based on the fact Duran was the most impressive fighter at this weight that I have ever seen.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Ohh, I'd say it's a closer fight even, if it was PRIME 4 PRIME. It's just, one could make the arguemnt.. how far out of his prime, was he really? He beat Sharma Mitchell, JUST before that, better than Mayweather beat Mitchell, AFTER Kostya had him. So, maybe stylistically, Hatton just has Kostya's number. I don't know.. That's all I was saying.

When you are a short, hittable guy, you will typically look very bad against power.

Frazier gave Ali all kinds of trouble, but Foreman annihilated Joe. So the whole "Tszyu beat Sharmba better than Mayweather beat him" is not the type of argument I can support.

It is possible that Kostya couldn't handle alot of pressure. It is also possible that a fresher Tszyu would have been sharper with more stamina.

I don't think we can discount the 2am/time zones thing. That isn't ideal.

[SkillspayBills]

I see him giving each one hell of a fight, since he can bully anyone that isn't remotley as strong as him. I can't see him coming out victorious over many of them, maybe cotto.

[kayjay]

When you are a short, hittable guy, you will typically look very bad against power.

Frazier gave Ali all kinds of trouble, but Foreman annihilated Joe. So the whole "Tszyu beat Sharmba better than Mayweather beat him" is not the type of argument I can support.

It is possible that Kostya couldn't handle alot of pressure. It is also possible that a fresher Tszyu would have been sharper with more stamina.

I don't think we can discount the 2am/time zones thing. That isn't ideal.

It was the same time for both guys

[THe TRiNiTY]

When you are a short, hittable guy, you will typically look very bad against power.

Frazier gave Ali all kinds of trouble, but Foreman annihilated Joe. So the whole "Tszyu beat Sharmba better than Mayweather beat him" is not the type of argument I can support.

It is possible that Kostya couldn't handle alot of pressure. It is also possible that a fresher Tszyu would have been sharper with more stamina.

I don't think we can discount the 2am/time zones thing. That isn't ideal.

It WAS the same time for both. I doubt either was used to fighting at that time. As far as my argument. I was merely stating that Kostya looked good going into the fight.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

It was the same time for both guys

One guy was traveling. If the time zone change is a non-issue, why would Ray Hatton say this:



But Hatton believes his son needs the experience of fighting abroad before he takes on the super-talented three-division champion Mayweather.

He said: "Richard needs the experience of training aboard for a fight for the very first time, getting used to that, he needs to have the experience of doing everything the American television and media will expect him to do, getting used to the different time zones, fighting in front of an American crowd - all that.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...right?

[Smokin']

One guy was traveling. If the time zone change is a non-issue, why would Ray Hatton say this:



But Hatton believes his son needs the experience of fighting abroad before he takes on the super-talented three-division champion Mayweather.

He said: "Richard needs the experience of training aboard for a fight for the very first time, getting used to that, he needs to have the experience of doing everything the American television and media will expect him to do, getting used to the different time zones, fighting in front of an American crowd - all that.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...right?

Where do you pull up all these lame quotes? You're seriously looking like a lsoer right about now...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

It WAS the same time for both. I doubt either was used to fighting at that time. As far as my argument. I was merely stating that Kostya looked good going into the fight.

Something tells me that Ricky has seen 2am Manchester time on an occasion or two....

By contrast, Tszyu flew in that week.

Ever fly across a dozen times zones? "Jet Lag" isn't a myth.

[THe TRiNiTY]

One guy was traveling. If the time zone change is a non-issue, why would Ray Hatton say this:



But Hatton believes his son needs the experience of fighting abroad before he takes on the super-talented three-division champion Mayweather.

He said: "Richard needs the experience of training aboard for a fight for the very first time, getting used to that, he needs to have the experience of doing everything the American television and media will expect him to do, getting used to the different time zones, fighting in front of an American crowd - all that.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...right?

Honestly, just sounds like an excuse to fight a couple of tune-ups. Nothing wrong with that. EVERYONE has tune-ups.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Where do you pull up all these lame quotes? You're seriously looking like a lsoer right about now...

OK. I'll be a loser. You are a very tough guy. But Ray Hatton said it.

So that is Hatton's "lame quote".

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