How does Ricky Hatton rate against historical 140 pounders?

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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #21
    Originally posted by Trevbutler
    He would loose to Duran, Mosley, Pernell, JCC, Oscar, Cotto, Camacho prob would beat him too in his prime.

    He would defintely beat rosario, I'll give him that.
    Is Chapo just too small?

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    • Williamb45
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      #22
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      How do you see the following fights going? Assume the fighters in their primes at JWW.

      Hatton vs. Julio Cesar Chavez

      Hatton vs. Pernell Whitaker

      Hatton vs Meldrick Taylor

      Hatton vs. Kostya Tszyu

      Hatton vs. Hector Camacho

      Hatton vs Roberto Duran (assume 140)

      Hatton vs Shane Mosley (assume 140)

      Hatton vs Aaron Pryor

      Hatton vs Oscar Delahoya (140)

      Hatton vs Buddy McGirt

      Hatton vs Edwin Rosario (140)

      Hatton vs Miguel Cotto
      I'll reserve my judgement till after the PBF fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
        You've never seen Aaron Pryor fight?




        He was an intense, swarming, pressure fighter. Similarities with Hatton. Probably more technically sound. His level of comp is questionable...but he aggressively pursued a fight with SRL. Didn't seem that Ray was that interested in that scrap.
        With or without the magic bottle??? J/K lol

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          #24
          Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
          How do you see the following fights going? Assume the fighters in their primes at JWW.

          Hatton vs. Julio Cesar Chavez

          Hatton vs. Pernell Whitaker

          Hatton vs Meldrick Taylor

          Hatton vs. Kostya Tszyu

          Hatton vs. Hector Camacho

          Hatton vs Roberto Duran (assume 140)

          Hatton vs Shane Mosley (assume 140)

          Hatton vs Aaron Pryor

          Hatton vs Oscar Delahoya (140)

          Hatton vs Buddy McGirt

          Hatton vs Edwin Rosario (140)

          Hatton vs Miguel Cotto
          Chavez beats the **** out of him, worst style matchup for Ricky ever
          Whitaker embarresses him over the 12, he might go down
          Kostya unsure
          Camacho gets wide decision over him
          Meldrick gets the tko
          Duran beats him up
          Mosley knocks him out
          Pryor tkos him
          De La Hoya I think would win via cuts
          McGirt beats him
          Rosario knocks him out, Rosario=incredible puncher
          Cotto looked shaky at 140 to me, Id say Hatton beats him down the stretch via decision
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          Last edited by Steak; 02-11-2011, 05:41 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Williamb45
            I'll reserve my judgement till after the PBF fight.
            The guy has 43 fights....but you need one more?

            It is unfair to judge Hatton by the PBF fight. If he loses, that doesn't make him any worse than he is today. PBF has been on the P4P list for ten years, and is most likely an ATG. No shame in losing to that guy.

            If Hatton wins, then that means... he can beat PBF. But the Chavez, Whitaker, Duran questions remain intact.

            PBF should be judged by the Hatton fight. Hatton shouldn't be judged by the PBF fight....and this is coming from a FMJ supporter.

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              #26
              Hatton vs. Julio Cesar Chavez.. Chavez in his prime, I don't see Hatton beating. Chavez had a better beard, had great stamina, and threw better body shots, in my personal opinion then Hatton. Late TKO or a decision for Chavez.

              Hatton vs. Pernell Whitaker.. Watch December 8th.. Lol.

              Hatton vs Meldrick Taylor.. That speed and power? C'mon... Look what Taylor was able to do against a Chavez, and tell me you think Hatton, with a suspect chin, would do.

              Hatton vs. Kostya Tszyu.. Prime for prime, who knows. I'll go with fact though, Hatton, by making Kostya quit on his stool.

              Hatton vs. Hector Camacho.. Hatton, I doubt Camacho would want his body hurt like that.

              Hatton vs Roberto Duran (assume 140).. Duran. Had a better chin, better boxer but could brawl, and do that better than Hatton, too.

              Hatton vs Shane Mosley (assume 140).. I doubt he could handle Mosley inhis prime. ****, at 147, I doubt he could handle Mosley right now. Too much speed, mixed with great combinations and good footwork.

              Hatton vs Aaron Pryor.. Not sure... I djust don't know.. even in Pryors prime, he didn't train well.. lol.

              Hatton vs Oscar Delahoya (140).. De La Hoya.. At 140, his stamina problems didn't show as much. He was quick with a powerful left hook and used decent footwork when he was in there to box.

              Hatton vs Buddy McGirt.. Tough fight to call. I'd say whoever won got it by split decision.

              Hatton vs Edwin Rosario (140) To be honest, I don't know enough about Rosario to make the correct call here. So, I will reserve judgment.

              Hatton vs Miguel Cotto.. At 140.. I'd pick Hatton, and at 147, due to evidence, I'd go with Cotto.. Very strange.

              I'm not a Hatton hater, just some of these guys are all time greats. Maybe Hatton does GREAT againast Mayweather, and I'd change my mind. However, I can only make that call on December 9th.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                The guy has 43 fights....but you need one more?

                It is unfair to judge Hatton by the PBF fight. If he loses, that doesn't make him any worse than he is today. PBF has been on the P4P list for ten years, and is most likely an ATG. No shame in losing to that guy.

                If Hatton wins, then that means... he can beat PBF. But the Chavez, Whitaker, Duran questions remain intact.

                PBF should be judged by the Hatton fight. Hatton shouldn't be judged by the PBF fight....and this is coming from a FMJ supporter.
                So which fight DO YOU judge hatton on?? Kostya? Castillo? some would say they were past their best.

                I like the guy though and hope he wins.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by C-Drone

                  Hatton vs. Kostya Tszyu.. Prime for prime, who knows. I'll go with fact though, Hatton, by making Kostya quit on his stool.
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                  C-Drone,

                  Terrific , analytical post. +K4U.

                  The only thing , though is that there is a bit of revisionist history about the Hatton-Tszyu fight. I think anybody who was watching that fight was surprised that Zoo stayed on his stool. Hatton certainly was. It wasn't a Thrilla in Manila type situation or even a mayweather-gatti type domination.

                  It was a reasonably close fight (that hatton was winning!!), and the cards bear that out. But the fight was up for grabs in the championship rounds.

                  Because it was a competitive fight, and Tszyu was 36 yrs old in the other guy's building at 2am, I wanted to be fair to KT and tee up a prime vs. prime match.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Williamb45
                    So which fight DO YOU judge hatton on?? Kostya? Castillo? some would say they were past their best.

                    I like the guy though and hope he wins.
                    The fights I judge Hatton on are the ones that I have seen: Vince Phillips, Kostya Tszyu, carlos Maussa, Tszyu, castillo , Urango, and Collazo.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                      C-Drone,

                      Terrific , analytical post. +K4U.

                      The only thing , though is that there is a bit of revisionist history about the Hatton-Tszyu fight. I think anybody who was watching that fight was surprised that Zoo stayed on his stool. Hatton certainly was. It wasn't a Thrilla in Manila type situation or even a mayweather-gatti type domination.

                      It was a reasonably close fight (that hatton was winning!!), and the cards bear that out. But the fight was up for grabs in the championship rounds.

                      Because it was a competitive fight, and Tszyu was 36 yrs old in the other guy's building at 2am, I wanted to be fair to KT and tee up a prime vs. prime match.

                      Ohh, I'd say it's a closer fight even, if it was PRIME 4 PRIME. It's just, one could make the arguemnt.. how far out of his prime, was he really? He beat Sharma Mitchell, JUST before that, better than Mayweather beat Mitchell, AFTER Kostya had him. So, maybe stylistically, Hatton just has Kostya's number. I don't know.. That's all I was saying.

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