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    Mosley's Mental Strength

    Shane Mosley has had his spirit broken and his confidence wounded on more than one occasion in his 49 engagements.

    And he has lost fights because of it.

    Now, Shane himself will tell you that one of his greatest strengths is his mental toughness and tenacity. That he always gives "150%."
    But is that always the case? Evidence would seem to indicate otherwise.

    He can be broken and has.


    Cotto's Punching Power

    Miguel Cotto is commonly viewed as one of the harder punching pros.

    But is he?

    On one hand you have a track record that would seem to indicate that Cotto is in fact merely a volume puncher. On the other; you have evidence to suggest the placement/innacuracy of Cotto's punches is what cuts down on his one punch knockout numbers. Perhaps he is only a millimeter/adjustment away from taking Mosley's head off.

    Cotto may not hit as hard, or even harder than can be immediately realized.


    Mosley's Age

    Shane Mosley is 36. How much will his age show against a younger all body destroyer like Miguel Cotto?

    No matter how you cut it - a nearly 10 year age seniority gap is never an advantage in this sport. And it's even less of an advantage against an opponent who is known for breaking stuff.

    The real question is; has Mosley shown any indication of slippage or wear? Because he appeared to reaclimate to 147 like a fish to water in his last outing. Reflexes check, speed check, agility check.

    Let's face it - age is sometimes nothing but a number. Even in this sport.


    The Hungrier Fighter

    Miguel Cotto, right?

    It is Miguel who is the younger hungrier of the two. That's logic.

    However, Shane Mosley has spent a great deal of time talking recently about his intention to reclaim P4P #1 status (yes, he's been there already) and his desire to establish himself as the best fighter of his era. This era.

    Shane Mosley is a man on a mission.

    And by my estimation not only hungry; but starving.



    Carry on.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Addison View Post
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    Cotto's Punching Power

    Miguel Cotto is commonly viewed as one of the harder punching pros.

    But is he?

    On one hand you have a track record that would seem to indicate that Cotto is in fact merely a volume puncher. On the other; you have evidence to suggest the placement/innacuracy of Cotto's punches is what cuts down on his one punch knockout numbers. Perhaps he is only a millimeter/adjustment away from taking Mosley's head off.

    Cotto may not hit as hard, or even harder than can be immediately realized.
    Dude, Cotto might not have one-punch KO power, but his hands are very heavy. Quintana said in his post-fight interview that Cotto didn't hit as hard as he expected, but look at how his face looked after the fight (it looked like he fought 12 hard rounds, not 4 and a half!). You can also look at other fighter's faces, like Abdullaev, Branco, Malignaggi, and Judah. Their faces looked BEAT UP! Hell, he dislocated Branco's shoulder with his punches.

    No, Cotto will not take Mosley's head off with one punch, but he will break him down, constantly applying pressure and punishment, until Mosley's age gets the better of him.

    Cotto KO9

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PRboxingfan View Post
      Dude, Cotto might not have one-punch KO power, but his hands are very heavy. Quintana said in his post-fight interview that Cotto didn't hit as hard as he expected, but look at how his face looked after the fight (it looked like he fought 12 hard rounds, not 4 and a half!). You can also look at other fighter's faces, like Abdullaev, Branco, Malignaggi, and Judah. Their faces looked BEAT UP! Hell, he dislocated Branco's shoulder with his punches.

      No, Cotto will not take Mosley's head off with one punch, but he will break him down, constantly applying pressure and punishment, until Mosley's age gets the better of him.

      Cotto KO9
      You can put it that way..

      Still a little bit of an oversimplification IMO.


      I think where Cotto lands his punches as much as how hard he lands them has to do with the exhausted, battered opponents.

      This is why we're getting this "optical illusion" stuff people including Shane Mosley have referred to. There's a reason.

      He's not getting those specific results because he has reinvented the punch.

      Miguel has is own signature method of assault.

      He beats up the whole body. That is what takes the life out of em.


      Hit someone in the right places and the adrenaline wears off.

      Meanwhile Cotto's coming in for another 5 punch waxing.. Those repeated shots to the chest, shoulders, back, hip bone, ventricular passageway, stomach, neck, scrotum, and side of the head add up.

      Most fighters strike within the traditional target areas of the head, abdomen, and sides.

      Most fighters are used to being hit in these target areas. Only.


      Miguel punches places these guys have never been hit before.


      However, the force of the impact is not exceptional..

      And he is reasonably heavy handed.


      You mention Branco?

      Branco was a rag doll at the point Cotto caused that injury. He was sucking air looking like he had to take a ****. Cotto had worked alot of sensitive areas before he busted Branco's shoulder and loosened his body up.

      Cotto didn't break Gianluca's shoulder clean with one shot out of nowhere.

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      • #4
        Cotto has done alot of damage to other fighters through the course of his fights but the difference in this fight is Cotto has a real threat in front of him. Mosley's not gonna go into a defensive shell once he gets hit. He's similar to MAB that when he gets hit he's very quick to try to answer back. Cotto's used to being the boss in the ring & doing what he wants. In this fight he's goign to have an extremely difficult time trying to impose his will on Mosley because Shane's is gonna him him back hard & often. I wouldn't doubt it if Cotto gets dropped from a body shot from Mosley either.

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        • #5
          Cotto is one of the mos devastating punchers in boxing today. He just doesn't score Julian Jackson type one punch KO's because he doesn't have the super quick twich muscles. If he did he'd be a different fighter.

          It's like George Foreman power, Cotto has

          compared to Mike Tyson power

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          • #6
            Originally posted by McKay View Post
            Cotto is one of the mos devastating punchers in boxing today. He just doesn't score Julian Jackson type one punch KO's because he doesn't have the super quick twich muscles. If he did he'd be a different fighter.

            It's like George Foreman power, Cotto has

            compared to Mike Tyson power
            Cotto does not fight in the heavier weight classes. These are not heavy masses of body's that he gets to tee off on. He's clearly thicker and heavier than the other guys in the division.

            Cotto only got a mini-mini chicken dance out of Judah with an extended straight right hand fully loaded. And this was after Judah was dragging his ass like it weighed as much as Vida Guerra's.. Baldomir had Judah on springs with a shot that was very similiar. And Baldomir is not a smasher.. This is Zab Judah's chin we're talking about - and Cotto barely dented it.

            If Cotto had power anything like you're describing he'd be knocking guys into the parking lot.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Knicksman20 View Post
              Cotto has done alot of damage to other fighters through the course of his fights but the difference in this fight is Cotto has a real threat in front of him. Mosley's not gonna go into a defensive shell once he gets hit. He's similar to MAB that when he gets hit he's very quick to try to answer back. Cotto's used to being the boss in the ring & doing what he wants. In this fight he's goign to have an extremely difficult time trying to impose his will on Mosley because Shane's is gonna him him back hard & often. I wouldn't doubt it if Cotto gets dropped from a body shot from Mosley either.
              Definately, alot of Mosley's KD's and KO's have come in the midst of some heavy exchanges and transitional movement.

              Cotto might be coming off of one of those big body shots when he gets nailed.

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              • #8
                Addison, great analysis.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Addison View Post
                  You can put it that way..

                  Still a little bit of an oversimplification IMO.


                  I think where Cotto lands his punches as much as how hard he lands them has to do with the exhausted, battered opponents.

                  This is why we're getting this "optical illusion" stuff people including Shane Mosley have referred to. There's a reason.

                  He's not getting those specific results because he has reinvented the punch.

                  Miguel has is own signature method of assault.

                  He beats up the whole body. That is what takes the life out of em.


                  Hit someone in the right places and the adrenaline wears off.

                  Meanwhile Cotto's coming in for another 5 punch waxing.. Those repeated shots to the chest, shoulders, back, hip bone, ventricular passageway, stomach, neck, scrotum, and side of the head add up.

                  Most fighters strike within the traditional target areas of the head, abdomen, and sides.

                  Most fighters are used to being hit in these target areas. Only.


                  Miguel punches places these guys have never been hit before.


                  However, the force of the impact is not exceptional..

                  And he is reasonably heavy handed.


                  You mention Branco?

                  Branco was a rag doll at the point Cotto caused that injury. He was sucking air looking like he had to take a ****. Cotto had worked alot of sensitive areas before he busted Branco's shoulder and loosened his body up.

                  Cotto didn't break Gianluca's shoulder clean with one shot out of nowhere.
                  bronco had never been stoped before he fought cotto,in the fight with cotto and bronco miguel also broke broncos jaw.
                  the only reason cotto hits his opponents in the back is because his opponents turn away to run from him while he is throwing punches and thats why some of his punches land on the back, it's not cotto's fault that his opponents are scared of getting hit by him

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                  • #10
                    Good read.

                    My only issue with this fight is that Cotto hasn't had a fight this big ever and he may not be ready. I mean Zab is clearly not wat he used to be.
                    I hope he's ready..

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