Is there any retired fighter who can come back and succeed?

[pesticid]

Kostya Tzsuy. The division right now is super weak. You have guys like Witter and Paulie dancing around. Kostya's had success against cuties like that. Zab and Sharmba were in their prime and just as cute.

[YungRayRobinson]

I've hated Lou Duva's guts ever since that fight. Prior to that I respected the man. Taylor had bagged every round up until the 12th, had Taylor just given Chavez the 12th the score still would've been 119-109 for Taylor.

And Richard Steele is a damn scumbag as well. His excuse was that Taylor went down as if he had "no life left" but he got right back up. And Chavez was all the way across the ring, with 2 seconds remaining...it's not like Chavez was going to make it back over to Taylor before the bell, let alone punish him.

Actually, Taylor's last fight was in 2002... I couldn't imagine him fighting now

[K-Nan]

I've hated Lou Duva's guts ever since that fight. Prior to that I respected the man. Taylor had bagged every round up until the 12th, had Taylor just given Chavez the 12th the score still would've been 119-109 for Taylor.

And Richard Steele is a damn scumbag as well. His excuse was that Taylor went down as if he had "no life left" but he got right back up. And Chavez was all the way across the ring, with 2 seconds remaining...it's not like Chavez was going to make it back over to Taylor before the bell, let alone punish him.

The worst part is that in Legendary Nights, he says in the interview that he told Meldrick to box! And then they show footage from the fight... yeah ****ing right, Lou.

And you're exactly right about Steele. The fight would have ended as soon as Meldrick took two steps.

It's bad enough that he's in the state he's in today- but to not even let him get his last "Able-bodied" win is just cruel.

[Primal Instinx]

Lennox Lewis
Felix Trinidad at 160 not any higher

[ßringer]

The worst part is that in Legendary Nights, he says in the interview that he told Meldrick to box! And then they show footage from the fight... yeah ****ing right, Lou.

And you're exactly right about Steele. The fight would have ended as soon as Meldrick took two steps.

It's bad enough that he's in the state he's in today- but to not even let him get his last "Able-bodied" win is just cruel.

No doubt. The damage was already done to Taylor and nothing could reverse that but damn. At least let him go out on top, like a man, the way he deserved. At least then he could have his pride still intact.

Did you see in that episode where Meldrick was laying on the couch, in some ragged apartment somewhere, in clothes that looked like rags watching his fight against Chavez on tape? That's the very definition of heartbreaking to me.

Actually, Taylor's last fight was in 2002... I couldn't imagine him fighting now

I knew he retired in '02 supposedly for good, but then rumors began to fly around '05 on the internet that he was fighting again. I didn't know if he was or not, so thanks for clearing that up and I certainly hope he's not.

[K-Nan]

No doubt. The damage was already done to Taylor and nothing could reverse that but damn. At least let him go out on top, like a man, the way he deserved. At least then he could have his pride still intact.

Did you see in that episode where Meldrick was laying on the couch, in some ragged apartment somewhere, in clothes that looked like rags watching his fight against Chavez on tape? That's the very definition of heartbreaking to me.

That's the exact part where I kinda got choked up- I'll admit. I saw the tears in Meldricks eyes and just thought about how HE must feel, if I felt like **** from just WATCHING the fight.

[kayjay]

Lmao at the Tyson remark. Who the **** need to beat him before everyone agrees? Same with Holyfield really.

Realistically:

Lennox could beat a minor beltholder (Sultan but NOT Chagaev) if he were in shape

Tszyu could beat some of the guys if he could make 140

No way Trinidad beats a Taylor or Pavlik


But why do we want to see any of this?

[kayjay]

That's the exact part where I kinda got choked up- I'll admit. I saw the tears in Meldricks eyes and just thought about how HE must feel, if I felt like **** from just WATCHING the fight.

Don't you agree he was knocked out though? He couldn't answer the count, he was in la la land and Steele asked him not once but twice. It's like saying if a basketball player hits a last second shot we shouldn't count it 'cause his team had been losing. If you let the fight go off you steal a legit KO from Chavez

[ßringer]

Don't you agree he was knocked out though? He couldn't answer the count, he was in la la land and Steele asked him not once but twice. It's like saying if a basketball player hits a last second shot we shouldn't count it 'cause his team had been losing. If you let the fight go off you steal a legit KO from Chavez

Meldrick answered Steele by nodding his head. The entire reason why he didn't answer Steele verbally was because he was looking at his corner, because Lou Duva's dumbass jumped up on the apron and started having a fit. That distracted Taylor just long enough to look away while Richard Steele was asking him an essential question.

Half of the blame lies with Steele and the other half lies with Duva IMO.

[K-Nan]

Don't you agree he was knocked out though? He couldn't answer the count, he was in la la land and Steele asked him not once but twice. It's like saying if a basketball player hits a last second shot we shouldn't count it 'cause his team had been losing. If you let the fight go off you steal a legit KO from Chavez

He nodded his head, and then went to look at Lou Duva acting like an idiot on the canvas.

He was very awake.