Is there any retired fighter who can come back and succeed?

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  • K-Nan
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    #11
    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    Did the McBride fight not convince you guys? Tyson is done. Fighters who have that style peak at a young age and quickly fade into belivion.
    I believe it's Bolivia, actually. They usually go there for training camp.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Kaynan
      I believe it's Bolivia, actually. They usually go there for training camp.
      Is that how Mike put it? I know he butchered it some way.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Kaynan
        Your Meldrick sig makes me want to stop watching boxing. It's too sad.
        He gave as well as he took in that fight, and beat Chavez's ass for 35 minutes and 58 seconds. Meldrick was the embodiment of a Philadelphia fighter, heart and skill, put together in an explosive package.

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          #14
          That Legendary Nights Episode was so well done. I get choked up nearly every time I see it. When they show Taylor at the end slurring his words, you just wish you can go back in time and tell him to run.

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          • EliteSoldier
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            #15
            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            Did the McBride fight not convince you guys? Tyson is done. Fighters who have that style peak at a young age and quickly fade into belivion.
            I believe he's smarter after those losses though, I believe that over the years tyson has been getting smarter not dumber. And he'll always have a punchers chance to win any fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by -Antonio-
              That Legendary Nights Episode was so well done. I get choked up nearly every time I see it. When they show Taylor at the end slurring his words, you just wish you can go back in time and tell him to run.
              I've openly admitted I cried when I first saw it, and still cry to this day whenever I see it. Growing up in Philly, Frazier was my hero but he was already retired so I could only watch old fights. Then Taylor came along and it was right around the time I got super excited about the sport, I watched him rise to stardom as a child, and then eventually fall. Last I heard he's still fighting today, to pay his bills.

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                #17
                Reggie Strickland

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Antonio-
                  That Legendary Nights Episode was so well done. I get choked up nearly every time I see it. When they show Taylor at the end slurring his words, you just wish you can go back in time and tell him to run.
                  I experience a weird mix of emotions. And yes, I've been teary-eyed from that episode.

                  Anger at Lou Duva for telling Meldrick he had to fight the 12th round out. Confusion by the absolute heartless way in which Steele stopped the fight. And yes- it was heartless.

                  And of course, just plain sadness when I see Meldrick's before and after. I still feel like I'm seeing it for the first time when he goes down. When Jim Lampley is like "Unbelievable!".

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by EliteSoldier
                    I believe he's smarter after those losses though, I believe that over the years tyson has been getting smarter not dumber. And he'll always have a punchers chance to win any fight.
                    Not really. It was evident in the McBride fight. McBride being a guy who got blitzed against Mike Mollo in one or two rounds.

                    Tyson is a guy who generated power with technique and speed. He wasn't a heavy handed guy, he was just very explosive. Explosive power only stays with you for so long. Guys who have heavy hands like Foreman for example keep that power forever. Also Mike's style of offense is extremely hard to keep up. I wouldn't be surprised if his back is shot. All that bobbing and weaving takes its toll on your body.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kaynan
                      I experience a weird mix of emotions. And yes, I've been teary-eyed from that episode.

                      Anger at Lou Duva for telling Meldrick he had to fight the 12th round out. Confusion by the absolute heartless way in which Steele stopped the fight. And yes- it was heartless.

                      And of course, just plain sadness when I see Meldrick's before and after. I still feel like I'm seeing it for the first time when he goes down. When Jim Lampley is like "Unbelievable!".
                      I've hated Lou Duva's guts ever since that fight. Prior to that I respected the man. Taylor had bagged every round up until the 12th, had Taylor just given Chavez the 12th the score still would've been 119-109 for Taylor.

                      And Richard Steele is a damn scumbag as well. His excuse was that Taylor went down as if he had "no life left" but he got right back up. And Chavez was all the way across the ring, with 2 seconds remaining...it's not like Chavez was going to make it back over to Taylor before the bell, let alone punish him.

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