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  • sonofisis
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    #211
    Originally posted by squealpiggy
    There was no contradiction. Agriculture is essential to large and comlex societies, large scale agriculture cannot be carried out with a high level of social organisation. Ergo the development of large scale agriculture went hand in hand with increasing social complexity.

    On the other hand bands of hunter-gatherers are limited from developing social complexity because all members of a social group have to devote their time to food gathering. In addition bands of hunter gatherers are limited in size because of the scarcity of resources (food, shelter etc) in groups which do not grow their food. The scarcity of the resources also brings them into direct conflict with other bands of hunter-gatherers, hence all pre-agrarian human and prehuman societies have good reason to distrust ********s. This is not necessarily to do with race and ethnicity. However race and ethnicity have become marks of unfamiliarity and therefore distrust.
    As explained, this pattern of thinking follows no particular anthropological concept that I'm familiar with. Unless of course it can be demonstrated that these hunter-gatherers' primary motivation for isolation is due to an innate feeling of "distrust" towards another given group, or because it is a better subsistence strategy for that lifestyle, in which tight knit, compacted nomadic groups (not large sedentary populations) were all that lifestyle could provide for. It is a case of survival, the same as how a pack of wolves in this territory will chase off another pack of wolves who come too close. There is nothing to indicate that the said wolves are racist against other wolves.There is nothing by way of available data that will support your bolded claim, as highlighted above.


    I conclude that the best way to counter racism is not to try to fight thousands of years of evolutionary instinct, but to work with it, break down the barriers and not separate people by race.
    Easier said than done and people have been preaching it for years. Alternately maybe people should indeed try a bit harder to overcome the primitive instinct of discrimination. However, the way you described it as far as selection for humans to discriminate, it would seem by this model that the more "human" you are, the more prone you are to racism.

    You may be right about the evidence (or lack thereof) of the fate of the Neanderthals. I did a quick search, I'm sure there was some evidence came out within the last year that there was some sort of war. But given the aggression in every human population ever since it would seem more far fetched that there was not some murder of Neanderthals carried out by early humans in areas where there was competition for resources.
    Using misguided speculation to support your claim isn't really considered supportive of a proposed conclusion.
    Last edited by sonofisis; 09-08-2007, 06:13 PM.

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    • Chief Vash
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      #212
      The racism and ignorance flows high in this thread.

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      • toyboy33
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        #213
        Originally posted by StackMo
        Well negro is latin for black since English is spoken in America black would seem more fitting.
        Yep. I know some who use that as a street greeting as well. Its all good if the person being called whatever feels the love.

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        • drvooh
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          #214
          Originally posted by Barlog
          Has any of the black posters noticed that everytime a black person talks smack or taunts another fighter he gets attacked by nonblack boxing fans.witter being the latest example,but when a latino does it its considered entertaining.

          Whats wrong with you bias f*gs are you ****`s or something.
          What you want black fighters to behave like robots or house negros?
          hell f`ing no you f*gs,black fighters will continue to talk **** and light all
          your favorite fighters asses up.

          Can`t wait to when Cotto and Hatton gets destroyed.


          If you black posters don`t back me you are a bunch of house negros.
          Never noticed that...

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          • southpawWiNKy
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            #215
            holy ****... how in the fck is this thread still goin' strong???

            Originally posted by Barlog
            Whats wrong with you bias f*gs are you ****`s or something... If you black posters don`t back me you are a bunch of house negros.
            it's a forum man... and you're acting like someone just set a cross on fire on your front lawn
            Last edited by southpawWiNKy; 09-08-2007, 08:45 PM.

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            • squealpiggy
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              #216
              As explained, this pattern of thinking follows no particular anthropological concept that I'm familiar with. Unless of course it can be demonstrated that these hunter-gatherers' primary motivation for isolation is due to an innate feeling of "distrust" towards another given group, or because it is a better subsistence strategy for that lifestyle, in which tight knit, compacted nomadic groups (not large sedentary populations) were all that lifestyle could provide for. It is a case of survival, the same as how a pack of wolves in this territory will chase off another pack of wolves who come too close. There is nothing to indicate that the said wolves are racist against other wolves.There is nothing by way of available data that will support your bolded claim, as highlighted above.
              Racism is a symptom of distrust of ********s, distrust of ********s is not necessarily racist. But racism is based around mistrust of ********s. How else would you explain it? Racists are racist because it's fun?

              Easier said than done and people have been preaching it for years. Alternately maybe people should indeed try a bit harder to overcome the primitive instinct of discrimination.
              How about this: If you know and associate with people of all different races, if you're friends with a diverse mix of people, you do not associate skin colour with "********" and therefore racism is far less pronounced.

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              • squealpiggy
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                #217
                Why does this website filter the word o u t s i d e r?

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                • kayjay
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by squealpiggy
                  Why does this website filter the word o u t s i d e r?
                  I wonder that myself

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                  • sonofisis
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by squealpiggy
                    Racism is a symptom of distrust of ********s, distrust of ********s is not necessarily racist. But racism is based around mistrust of ********s. How else would you explain it? Racists are racist because it's fun?
                    I reiterate. You seem to be confusing the dichotomy of survival and racism, with discrimination when there is absolutely no correlation. Racism is derived from concepts of racial superiority. Distrust towards another "pack" is not a manifestation of superiority, but a survival strategy for those who cannot support large, compacted populations. This is an extremely flawed connection. People are racist due to ignorance and early moderns distrusted any other group who threatened the stability of their own.

                    Again.. Dafur is not due to racism, Rwanda was not due to racism, Sierra Leon is no due to racism, the conflicts in the Kongo are not due to racism. They are complex political issues that can extend its self to simplified issues of the distant past as it concerns survival of an extended family. I am at a loss as to why you would equate this with "discrimination" or products of racism.



                    How about this: If you know and associate with people of all different races, if you're friends with a diverse mix of people, you do not associate skin colour with "********" and therefore racism is far less pronounced.
                    As alluded to, it is a cultural phenomenon and not any inherent predisposition to in fact, want to discriminate. I'm quite sure that if a white couple adopted a black child, then the black child may grow up and notice a physical difference, but it would be so externally superficial and insignificant as just to be a foot note in his/her daily thought or outlook on life. It boils down to your implication that people are racist by nature, when in fact it seems more so to be a primitive regression of instinctive fear and not an evolutionary benefit to **** sapien sapiens (which is why we indeed have abstract minds).

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                    • sonofisis
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                      #220
                      Review of "Before Color Prejudice" by the late Harvard prof. Frank Snowden:

                      Further developing the themes he so eloquently outlines in Blacks in Antiquity, Frank M. Snowden Jr. continues his investigations into attitudes towards Africans in the classical civilizations of Rome and Greece. Snowden identifies the African blacks from Egypt, Nubia (the modern Sudan), Ethiopia, and Carthage (Tunisia), discussing their interactions--including intermarriage--with the Greco-Romans. (He also notes that many of the artistic representations of these people resemble present-day African Americans.) From the trade missions of the Egyptian dynasties to their conquest of the Mediterranean and ultimate downfall at the hands of the Romans, Snowden unravels a complex history of cultural exchanges that went on for several millennia in which racial prejudice was not a factor. "There was a clear-cut respect among the Mediterranean peoples for Ethiopians and their way of life," he writes, "and above all, the ancients did not stereotype blacks as primitives defective in religion and culture." --Eugene Holley Jr. - Source


                      ^In the words of Basil Davidson: "Racism is a rather modern sickness"

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