"sugar" Shane Mosley talks about Cotto, Mayweather...and Rampage.

[-Hyperion-]

Steroids don't leave your body the day you do it. You cycle on/off steroids.

Did Barry Bonds take steroids?

again, im not gonna discuss it, you cnat really say anything unless theres scientific proof.....

again i was questioning youur statement that after the BALCO scandal, Shane Mosley went down in weight and looked smaller, he looked pretty ****ing big STILL AT 154 against Winky Wright both times....(i admit not as ripped in the second one, but he was ****ing big...)and he fought fernando vargas at 154...

[dino]

I'm strong enough to fight at 47, 54 and maybe even a few 160 pounders.


mosley has gotten a couple of wins under his belt, now he's going off the deep end again saying he'll fight some middleweights. i remember he was talking about fighting hopkins before wright brought the midget back to reality!

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

again, im not gonna discuss it, you cant really say anything unless theres scientific proof.....

again i was questioning youur statement that after the BALCO scandal, Shane Mosley went down in weight and looked smaller, he looked pretty ****ing big STILL AT 154 against Winky Wright both times....(i admit not as ripped in the second one, but he was ****ing big...)and he fought fernando vargas at 154...

1) Do you believe that Bonds took steroids?

2) Do you have "scientific proof" that Bonds took steroids?

Look at Shane Mosley now compared to Shane dring the steroids era. He is smaller. Substantially smaller.

[Smokin']

He's also dropped in weight. About 15 lbs. He only comes in about 5 lbs over the limit now.

[Knicksman20]

That's a good article Dios but it's speculation. There was a drastic change in his style. When Mosley was merked by Forrest in the first fight he wasn't the same fighter. His whole style changed. And if you know your history about Mosley he was an amateur at 139 lbs. For a while he was having difficulty making the 135 limit so it was only natural for him to jump up to 147. Not to mention the bigger fights were there at the time. Call it what you want but I think Mosely's decline had more to do with his own confidence being shaken. So could he have taken THG. Possibly, but in my oppinion I don't think he did.

[THe TRiNiTY]

But Cotto doesn't have horrible stamina...

Yeah.. and Oscars chin is too durable.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

If it walks like a duck, and says "quack"...

That's a good article Dios but it's speculation. There was a drastic change in his style. When Mosley was merked by Forrest in the first fight he wasn't the same fighter. His whole style changed. And if you know your history about Mosley he was an amateur at 139 lbs. For a while he was having difficulty making the 135 limit so it was only natural for him to jump up to 147. Not to mention the bigger fights were there at the time. Call it what you want but I think Mosely's decline had more to do with his own confidence being shaken. So could he have taken THG. Possibly, but in my oppinion I don't think he did.

All I ever ask is for people to be honest with themselves and to use the same judgments and criteria for everybody. Apply the standards equally.

If you believe that Bonds did steroids simply because he was a Balco client (and you know you do), why do you doubt that Shane did steroids when HE was a Balco client??

And if Shane was NOT taking steroids, why doesn't he just say what Balco products he WAS taking?

Note: Balco had no other real products.




Yes, I am aware that Shane was a big lightweight. I am very appreciative of the old-school way that he went from lightweight to welter. I remember that PBF wanted a fight with Shane at 135. This was 1999, I believe. But SSM was Delahoya-bound, and Jack wanted $10 mil to fight PBF. I used to have alot of respect for Shane.

As a former wrestler myself, I know alot of guys who did steroids. A LOT. So I feel that I almost have a sixth sense for guys who are juicing. When Shane showed up on The SuperStars competition, I KNEW he was on the juice. Just from the looks of him.

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[WetSexyLlamaPR]

Wow alot of people here need to read the book "Game of Shadows". I highly recommend it. It shows why Balco was part of so many elite athletes "training and nutrition" regimen. The reason Balco had so many elite clients was because Balco offered undetectable performance enhancing drugs. Which drug is it? HGH Human Growth Hormone. The whole vitamin front for Balco was pulled under the rug in 2003. It was proven back then that that was a scam put in place in front of what they were actually doing. Every single person who was associated with Balco used performance enhancing drugs that are very difficult to test for.. That was the purpose of Balco. The reason alot of these athletes get off is because Balco was for a few years there was ahead of the testers and since these athletes have the whole "I never tested positive" routine they will always use that because it's true. But the entire FBI investigation which was explained in great detail the book "Game of Shadows" shows that was the purpose of Balco was: come get undetectable steroids here. Another point is that in the Balco raid they founds tons syringes, HGH, The Clear, The Cream and all of these cycling calendars with the ACTUAL ATHLETES NAMES on them showing in detail when they cycled on and when they cycled off their drugs. Shane Mosley had calendars in his name as did everyone else. He used performance enhancing drugs simple as that. There's a reason why not one of these athletes never sued for defamation of character and/or libel against the book and its authors. For the simple fact that it's true.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Shane cheated. Period.

the purpose of Balco was: come get undetectable steroids here. Another point is that in the Balco raid they founds tons syringes, HGH, The Clear, The Cream and all of these cycling calendars with the ACTUAL ATHLETES NAMES on them showing in detail when they cycled on and when they cycled off their drugs. Shane Mosley had calendars in his name as did everyone else. He used performance enhancing drugs simple as that. There's a reason why not one of these athletes never sued for defamation of character and/or libel against the book and its authors. For the simple fact that it's true.

Thank you, thank you.

Because Shane is a "nice guy", people overlook the fact that he cheated. Shane is all smiley-smiley. That's great. But the reality is that he is a guy who came into the ring trying to cheat the sport, and his opponent.
And, in my opinion, that is far worse than anything that Mayweather or Malignaggi might say in a press conference.

Cheating is worse than boasting.

And because of that cheating, I have to keep Shane out of the HoF. If he was even gonna make it.

[Chipper]

Thank you, thank you.

Because Shane is a "nice guy", people overlook the fact that he cheated. Shane is all smiley-smiley. That's great. But the reality is that he is a guy who came into the ring trying to cheat the sport, and his opponent.
And, in my opinion, that is far worse than anything that Mayweather or Malignaggi might say in a press conference.

Cheating is worse than boasting.

And because of that cheating, I have to keep Shane out of the HoF. If he was even gonna make it.

Theres no real proof that Mosley juiced. He might have just done some weightlifting because he was moving up and wanted to add the weight in muscle.