Best Natural talent gone to waste?

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  • DA1CATAS
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    #21
    Originally posted by kayjay
    I won't agree with Judah, b/c I don't see how he could have won any of the fights he lost except Baldomir. He ran into his limitations.

    Sanders, sure

    Tyson? This one is complicated
    That hurts that you would think that of such a great fighter...

    A Pro fighter with a 4 round Tank? Thats not limitations... thats just plain not Training correctly.

    THATS LIKE SAYING YOUR PISSED BECAUSE YOUR VOLVO DOESN'T GET THE GAS MILELAGE IT SAYS IN THE COMMERCIALS..

    wELL Ya gotta put a tank of gas in the car too.

    Judah just never wanted to pay for the gas he needed. as he did in the beggining.

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    •  mickeyb
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      #22
      Kirkland Laing !! didnt he beat Duran early 80's?

      never did much after that, apparently he's now a bum drug addict living in a council flat in Hackney, London.

      The thing is with people like Laing, Tyson, Nunn, Hamed and Judah. I have no simpathy for them. I know boxers can get ripped off by promoters and quite a few are uneducated but at the end of the day they had their chance and blew it. You could argue some of them took their chances but not with both hands. That's why Nunn is serving a 25yr prison sentance, Tyson who earned millions is broke, Laing is a junkie, Hamed just got out of jail and we'll see what the future holds for Judah.

      Rid**** Bowe is another. Used to really like that guy until he let himself down. What a waster !!

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      • Mr. Ryan
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        #23
        Originally posted by DA1CATAS
        That hurts that you would think that of such a great fighter...

        A Pro fighter with a 4 round Tank? Thats not limitations... thats just plain not Training correctly.

        THATS LIKE SAYING YOUR PISSED BECAUSE YOUR VOLVO DOESN'T GET THE GAS MILELAGE IT SAYS IN THE COMMERCIALS..

        wELL Ya gotta put a tank of gas in the car too.

        Judah just never wanted to pay for the gas he needed. as he did in the beggining.
        I thought Judah was going to beat Cotto until someone told me they saw him partying on South Beach the week of the fight.

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        • DA1CATAS
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          #24
          Originally posted by McLovin
          I thought Judah was going to beat Cotto until someone told me they saw him partying on South Beach the week of the fight.
          Thats what that ***get does... F*&%^& drink 2 and 3 weeks before a fight thinking he will get over it...

          Thats why he loses... he's not as dedicated as his talents warrant of him.

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          • Kobe Bryant
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            #25
            I'd say Judah too. But wasn't he the champ at 147? Atleast he's shown he cam be a champion. He used some of his talent for that.

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            • -CANE-
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              #26
              There is a lot of wasted talent out there, and the same names crop up, but for me I still say Michael Nunn, he achieved 2 world titles, but could have been one of the all time greats, everything in the ring came so natural to him and he looked so effortless. Destroyed Frank Tate, beat accomplished fighters like Roldan,Barkley and the annoying Starling, then unified 2 of the titles by leaving the highly regarded Sambu Kalambay unconcious for 2 minutes, not bad for someone who wasn't regarded as a big hitter, considering Kalambay had a really solid chin. He never trained as hard as he should of, and started to believe all the hype about him. Before getting lazy and overconfident against Toney who was a great boxer himself, he made a very good boxer look like a complete amatuer. Up until maybe 9-10 rounds when an undertrained Nunn ran out of steam, and Toney was beginning to assert himself and get back in the fight, it was one of the most one-sided beatings I have seen. After that KO loss he was never the same again, even though winning the super-middle title, which he was robbed of by Steve 'little known' Little. I was at the fight and despite getting put down in the 1st round, he won every round after that. He was due to fight the winner of Nigel Benn and Henry Wharton on the same card, in a unification fight. He achieved something in boxing and more than most, but could have gone down as one of the top3 middleweights of all-time, he had the tools to beat RJJ and Hopkins who will go down in history as better fighters and achieving more.

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              • dansapien
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                #27
                Naseem Hamed

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                •  mickeyb
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                  #28
                  funny i was at the Nunn - Little fight as well and what i saw was someone who thought he was entitled to win rather than earn it. I stopped him on the way out of the ring for an autograph and he just looked at me like i was a piece of ****. So i made my way over to Michael Watson who was being wheeled out of the arena by his mum and managed to get to speak to him.

                  So when i look back at Nunn's career i dont think of what could have been or what should have been, i think he's ended up where he deserves, in prison.

                  i bet he walks around D-Wing thinking he owns the place, talking about how great he was and how James Toney got lucky. Where as Michael Watson spends most of his life in a wheel chair talking about how he was greatfull for what he had and has still got. He bears no grudge against Eubank and doesnt dwell on the past.

                  Strangly, Naseem Hamed was at that fight, he was a ****y teenager in the crowd telling everyone "i'm gonna be a legend".....perhaps him and Michael Nunn became penpals when both inside and they wrote about regaining the titles they lost and how hard done by they are.

                  sorry if your offended as you sound a bit of a "NunnHugger" but their a pair of losers.

                  if you are sad like me and like to go ringside after the fights, did you have a happier experience? Eubank had about 500 pre-signed photo's he was handing out, i think he had about 480 left at the end of the night !!

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                  • The Iron Man
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                    #29
                    I Wouldnt Say Tyson was a Wasted Talent, He was the youngest ever heavyweight Champion , Lineal Champ, First to Unify 3 different Belts, unidisputed champ, two time champ. Won The title after a 3 year gap something dempsey couldnt achive and something Ali could. He Dominated his era, with unseen terror. But Still he didnt quite reach his potential..but no way was he a wasted talent

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                    • -AZZA-
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                      #30
                      naseem hamed
                      zab judah
                      ike ibeabuchi

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