Mayweather & Hatton: Will 147 Be A Factor?

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  • RodBarker
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    #141
    Originally posted by Easton Assassin
    Man, thats the problem. Ricky has ONE fight at 147 and doesn't KO the guy, and all of a sudden -he has no power at that weight.


    It is the height of ignorance!
    Mate the height of ignorance is people thinking weight will effect this fight , they will be the same weight at fight time stepping into the ring which is the best fighting weight for both these guys , the weigh in and fight time weight are entirely different deals , the one that matters is fight weight , they are the same !!!!! engrave that in stone .

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    • MJ406
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      #142
      140 vs 147 .. there are differences

      okay your right .. thats a fair argument

      to hold the Collazo fight like its gonna be an exact reference to how Hatton fight on December 8th remains to be seen .. it is a pretty radical conclusion to jump to .. good point Easton

      but still ... look at the average size of a 140 pounder

      and compare it to a Welter .. yeah I know its only 7 pounds.

      hell take all the Alphabet 140 pound Champs .. and take all the 147 pound champions

      there's an obvious size and power disparity .. I think at the very least you can acknowledge that.

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      • Fox McCloud
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        #143
        Weight WILL influence this fight. Here's why:

        Even though the most obvious and simple comparison that can be made is, WHO IS STRONGER, FLOYD OR HATTON? It is not the correct comparison to make.

        Just like in any other sport, offenses don't play against one another, and defenses don't play against one another.

        So in analyzing whether Hatton's offense can crack Mayweather's defense, you have to look at what Mayweather's defense has withstood. Can Hatton hit harder than De La Hoya?

        If you think so, good for you, I (along with a lot of other people) would contend that Hatton's power is a few levels below Oscar because of the weight difference.

        Alternatively, Oscar was slightly rattled a few times in "The World Awaits." Mayweather's offense is underrated for sure. Hatton, on the other hand, was hurt by both Urango (on body shots, which isn't super critical to December 8th) and Collazo (who is not known as a puncher).

        I think those two factors give the impression that Hatton will take more physical damage than Mayweather.

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          #144
          What's funny to me is people saying Collazo hits harder than Maweather, is it just me or is that not even close to being the case.

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          • RodBarker
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            #145
            Originally posted by Easton Assassin
            Man, thats the problem. Ricky has ONE fight at 147 and doesn't KO the guy, and all of a sudden -he has no power at that weight.


            It is the height of ignorance!
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Weight WILL influence this fight. Here's why:

            Even though the most obvious and simple comparison that can be made is, WHO IS STRONGER, FLOYD OR HATTON? It is not the correct comparison to make.

            Just like in any other sport, offenses don't play against one another, and defenses don't play against one another.

            So in analyzing whether Hatton's offense can crack Mayweather's defense, you have to look at what Mayweather's defense has withstood. Can Hatton hit harder than De La Hoya?

            If you think so, good for you, I (along with a lot of other people) would contend that Hatton's power is a few levels below Oscar because of the weight difference.

            Alternatively, Oscar was slightly rattled a few times in "The World Awaits." Mayweather's offense is underrated for sure. Hatton, on the other hand, was hurt by both Urango (on body shots, which isn't super critical to December 8th) and Collazo (who is not known as a puncher).

            I think those two factors give the impression that Hatton will take more physical damage than Mayweather.
            Weight dont effect this fight in the terms of it being at 147 the attributes of both fighters at the weight is a different matter that is not weight related but skills and durabilty related ,,, would you be happier if the fight was at 140 ,,,, because either way they still step in the ring at 150 ,,, why do you think Hatton wanted the fight , because Floyd is not a true welter .

            These guys are even going into the fight and both are fighting at there premium fighting weight , they both will step in being the same as they both were last fights which are regarded as their best performances .

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            • Fox McCloud
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              #146
              The more meat Floyd has, the better he will be able to absorb punishment.

              Hatton is not going to outslick Floyd.

              He will have to wear him down a lot for a decision, or KO him.

              Since weight influences how much punishment Floyd can absorb, I think weight will matter in this fight.

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              • RodBarker
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                #147
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                The more meat Floyd has, the better he will be able to absorb punishment.

                Hatton is not going to outslick Floyd.

                He will have to wear him down a lot for a decision, or KO him.

                Since weight influences how much punishment Floyd can absorb, I think weight will matter in this fight.
                In terms of their attributes weight matters as in every fighter, but in the context of this thread and the fight being listed for the 147 pnd title, it doesnt matter one iouta because no matter what weight belt these two fought for on paper they are the same size fighters in the flesh and will fight Dec 8 at the best weight for both fighters 150 lb stepping in the ring.

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                • Addison
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  The more meat Floyd has, the better he will be able to absorb punishment.

                  Hatton is not going to outslick Floyd.

                  He will have to wear him down a lot for a decision, or KO him.

                  Since weight influences how much punishment Floyd can absorb, I think weight will matter in this fight.
                  Castillo didn't KO Mayweather when he beat him..

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                  • Wiley Hyena
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by RodBarker
                    In terms of their attributes weight matters as in every fighter, but in the context of this thread and the fight being listed for the 147 pnd title, it doesnt matter one iouta because no matter what weight belt these two fought for on paper they are the same size fighters in the flesh and will fight Dec 8 at the best weight for both fighters 150 lb stepping in the ring.
                    I agree with RodBarker on this one. Cong**** Rod, we finally agree.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Addison
                      Castillo didn't KO Mayweather when he beat him..
                      But Castillo didn't beat Mayweather...

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