How much longer are ya'll gonna ignore Arthur Abraham??

[Derranged_]

Ya know the funny thing about Abraham; is that many posters on this forum said he'd never be the same (in a negative way) after the beating he took from Miranda....

[eazy_mas]

Ya know the funny thing about Abraham; is that many posters on this forum said he'd never be the same (in a negative way) after the beating he took from Miranda....

when you have broken bones it need time to heal and maybe it doesnt return like it was before.

So there is alway a possiablity that he chin could break in a fight and maybe worse his career is over before he comes to fight.

I think if they stopped the fight he would have a longer career and his chin wouldnt be broken that badly

[Knicksman20]

HBO knows of the controversy surrounding his fight with Miranda & probably doesn't want any part of him. I still thought Abraham lost the fight with Miranda. How do you win rounds by shelling up for 2:50 & throwing an occasional flurry at the end of the round when your opponent is landing & outworking you? That fight wasn't hard to score at all.

[Eno]

i've liked him for awhile but he lost some fans being innactive for so long

[restless_438]

HBO knows of the controversy surrounding his fight with Miranda & probably doesn't want any part of him. I still thought Abraham lost the fight with Miranda. How do you win rounds by shelling up for 2:50 & throwing an occasional flurry at the end of the round when your opponent is landing & outworking you? That fight wasn't hard to score at all.

see, i don't know what fight you were watching..

[adamk1304]

HBO knows of the controversy surrounding his fight with Miranda & probably doesn't want any part of him. I still thought Abraham lost the fight with Miranda. How do you win rounds by shelling up for 2:50 & throwing an occasional flurry at the end of the round when your opponent is landing & outworking you? That fight wasn't hard to score at all.

Watch the fight and you'll see that a substantial amount of miranda's punches were landing on the gloves for the majority of the fight, i believe this was the reason why he was fighting dirty, out of frustration. You don't win a fight by throwing and not landing.

[Knicksman20]

Guys I've watched this fight several times & AFTER Abraham gets his jaw broke he did not fight the same as he was earlier. He was so much more tentative & defensive. He used the Winky defense & was being outworked by Miranda. I don't understand how you two can't see that difference.

[Derranged_]

HBO knows of the controversy surrounding his fight with Miranda & probably doesn't want any part of him. I still thought Abraham lost the fight with Miranda. How do you win rounds by shelling up for 2:50 & throwing an occasional flurry at the end of the round when your opponent is landing & outworking you? That fight wasn't hard to score at all.

Why would HBO not want any part of this rematch? This is a perfect 'controversy or story-line' to promote this integrueing rematch..

[restless_438]

Guys I've watched this fight several times & AFTER Abraham gets his jaw broke he did not fight the same as he was earlier. He was so much more tentative & defensive. He used the Winky defense & was being outworked by Miranda. I don't understand how you two can't see that difference.

Okay, you don't win a fight by "outworking" someone if your PUNCHES DONT LAND... i guess we all figured that was already known by boxing fans... Abraham was way more accurate than Miranda, even after he got his jaw broken...

[Knicksman20]

Okay, you don't win a fight by "outworking" someone if your PUNCHES DONT LAND... i guess we all figured that was already known by boxing fans... Abraham was way more accurate than Miranda, even after he got his jaw broken...

There's no way in hell anyone can say that Abraham was just as effective as he was before he had his jaw broke. He completely changed the way he fought to protect his jaw. He might have been more accurate but AFTER he had his jaw broke he didn't punch much at all. Abraham fought defensive for the rest of the fight & at times he tried to flurry at the end of the rounds to steal them but he wasn't effective. And yes Miranda outworked Abraham because he rarely punched back & some of those punches were getting through. That's why Abraham was a bloody mess during the fight because he was getting hit everywhere. The point is Miranda was the busier fighter & landed alot more punches then Abraham blocked that night.