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  • squealpiggy
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    #31
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    So what you are saying is that a guy who relied completely on his jab won the fight by landing less punches? I know Oscar is strong, but I don't know if his jab is stronger than a Floyd power punch, because that is basically what you are saying if you say Oscar won the fight. That or he should win because he threw a lot of punches, even if very little of them landed, which is a dumb judging philosophy IMO anyway.
    The punchstats were bogus, Floyd didn't outland De La Hoya. It was around even for a lot of rounds. Besides which pro rounds are not about landing the most punches, they are about landing clean and most of all effective punching, and Oscar was the more effective puncher. His punches had more of an impact on the course of the fight.

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    • Kobe Bryant
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      #32
      Anyone can be beaten. But the things Oscar did well Rick cannot. Oscar has a great jab, it works when he uses it. And also he has the handspeed to match with it. Hatton's speed is not all that great and certainly not as good as Oscar's. Plus I believe Oscar is a much smarter fighter than Hatton when it comes to gameplan. Hatton usually only has one strategy and that's to get on the inside. Really if he cannot not do it he's ineffective because he can't rip away at the body. Oscar looked well becuase he can exchange when needed and is fast enough to get off first. And also he can box with you from an out side distance.

      Here's the problem with Hatton he is too wide open at times. And he lunges into his exchanges on the inside. And there's is enough time for a speedy guy like Mayweather to counter or strike first as Hatton comes in. Hatton doesn't have good defense. He will not be able to take punches away from Mayweather as Oscar did. Because for the majority of the fight Oscar picked off a lot of Floyd's straight hands. Even though Floyd landed was able to land good solid shots at times. Oscar's versatility enabled him to keep Floyd honest for a large portion of the fight. That's why Floyd output was so low early on. He wanted to wait until the later rounds to strike and then slowly pull away which he did. Floyd showed Oscar tons of repsect early on. If you rewatch the fight Roger Mayweather kept insisting to Floyd not to worry because they will get him down the stretch.

      To sum it all up. I don't think Floyd is going to have any concern with Hatton becuase he is one dimensional for the most part.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #33
        Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
        Anyone can be beaten. But the things Oscar did well Rick cannot.
        This is what i been trying to explain for weeks now,

        Im still wating for a logical explaination as to how and why hatton will beat mayweather.

        Yesterday it was established that floyd lets his opponents walk up to him, hit him and the body and move out again, so therefore hatton will have nothing to worry about on dec 8th

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          #34
          Here's the problem with Hatton he is too wide open at times. And he lunges into his exchanges on the inside. And there's is enough time for a speedy guy like Mayweather to counter or strike first as Hatton comes in. Hatton doesn't have good defense. He will not be able to take punches away from Mayweather as Oscar did.
          That doesn't seem to matter. De La Hoya blocked and parried most of Mayweather's punches and yet even apparently unbiased punchstats gave Mayweather the edge. The difference in this fight is going to be throwing more punches, not landing them.

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            #35
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            That doesn't seem to matter. De La Hoya blocked and parried most of Mayweather's punches and yet even apparently unbiased punchstats gave Mayweather the edge. The difference in this fight is going to be throwing more punches, not landing them.
            Yes true and I believe Maywether will throw more punches this time around becuase there is no fear of what Hatton can do.

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            • Kobe Bryant
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              #36
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              This is what i been trying to explain for weeks now,

              Im still wating for a logical explaination as to how and why hatton will beat mayweather.

              Yesterday it was established that floyd lets his opponents walk up to him, hit him and the body and move out again, so therefore hatton will have nothing to worry about on dec 8th

              Me too really. If Floyd neutralizes Hatton't inside game he can't go to the body. outside of that I don't see Hatton giving Mayweather too much trouble. And I think Hatton will have balance problems for this fight. Especially in the way he lunges in and adding that with Floyd's speed.

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              • squealpiggy
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                #37
                Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
                Me too really. If Floyd neutralizes Hatton't inside game he can't go to the body. outside of that I don't see Hatton giving Mayweather too much trouble. And I think Hatton will have balance problems for this fight. Especially in the way he lunges in and adding that with Floyd's speed.
                If Mayweather neutralizes Hatton's inside game then he wins the fight. I don't think that this is even in question. It's a big task though.

                Expect to see Hatton throw a lot of right hooks to the body.

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                • squealpiggy
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                  #38
                  De La Hoya didn't even care if he won that fight it seemed like, just like his previous one against Hopkins, ooh my liver...
                  You've never been hit in the liver I take it?

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                  • The Troll
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by squealpiggy
                    You've never been hit in the liver I take it?
                    I have actually, and not by an off balance non heavy puncher.

                    Dis is my round

                    Bodyshot Bodyshot Bodyshot Bodyshot (chorus)

                    oooh my liver

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                    • Tysonisgod
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                      #40
                      if it was prime vs prime, floyd would still have won cos he would have tryed more in the fight, why do more than wat it takes to win a fight

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