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  • weepaul
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    #41
    Originally posted by MickyHatton
    Thats an understatement, he was easily the most talented fighter not to win a world title.

    As you say he was trained by Ingle and had the same elusive defensive style that was made famous by Nassem Hamed and Johnny Nelson and he could seriously box.

    Unfortunately his chin was a bit suspect so....he never quite made it although with 48w and only 6 losses (to good fighters) he was obviously a good fighter, especially when you look at his loss against Mike McCallum were many had him the winner by split decision as opposed to the other way round!
    Graham was almost unhittable in his prime. If you ever seen his first loss, it was to Kalambay and he tried changing his style to be more fan friendly. The Jackson fight was old style Herol and he just got caught. This is the reason I hate betting against punchers.
    Jackson did the same thing against a prime Norris.

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    • deuce_drop
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      #42
      Originally posted by RAESAAD
      some would say Tarvers KO of Jones was a lucky punch but when you throw a punch you intend to land it....sometimes you do,sometimes you don't....it has alot to do with the other fighters movement at the time it's thrown aswell so I really don't like the term lucky punch.I mean when your in a fight and throwing punches why is it lucky that one lands right on the kisser?
      the thing about tarvers punch was he had his eyes closed tight when he threw that punch, and he was being beaten to the punch in both rounds until he landed that shot.

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      • rellik13
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        #43
        Roach said in his corner after every round. Go low stay low. You will notice that Penalosa landed a punch at almost the same exact place maybe 15-30 seconds before the big one. Gonzalez made a hurt face and was already having a hard time breathing. He hit the spot again to put him down. He was going body most of the fight and it worked.

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        • Papa Ace
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          #44
          Originally posted by Mochiteco
          I respect Peñalosa but i think was a lucky punch because Gonzales was winning easily and Peñalosa with istinc throwed that punch and ¡End of the history!

          Gonzales deserves the rematch inmediatly.

          you owned yourself with that post. he went for his instinct, yet you call it a lucky punch? wtf was that

          there are boxing fans, and there are boxer fans.... you clearly belong to the latter group.

          51 ****in wins, a former world champion and at an old boxing age of 35.... it would be **** to call it a lucky punch.
          Last edited by Papa Ace; 08-13-2007, 09:47 AM.

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          • TheEvilSaint
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            #45
            this is boxing. theres no such thing as a lucky punch. if you throw it, landed it, and knocked the guy out, thats a display of either ur power or ur timing. luck is not how you win.

            theres no such thing as lucky punches in boxing.

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            • Thunder Lips
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              #46
              Taylor was winning the Chavez fight on points but took a hammering throughout the fight; including the 11th and 12th. It was hardly a single punch out of nowhere, but I guess you could argue that the timing of the ko blow was pretty good luck.

              Rahman/Lewis I was not one lucky punch either. Lewis was rocked several times and outworked throughout the fight, he actually got hurt by another big right hand that sent him scrambling to the ropes where he was finished as I recall.

              Lucky punch? I would say Lewis badly slicing Vitali's eyelid open with a glancing punch that led to the stoppage several rounds later.

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              • miron_lang
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                #47
                Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                as i said, **** happens, but gerry was definitly trying to hit to the body with the left all night, he landed the punch in the button and won the fight fair and square...gonzalez is clearly the better fighter, though...
                The better boxer that night i agree. He was winning on pts.

                Penalosa is the better fighter because he kayoed him. No?

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                • -Hyperion-
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by miron_lang
                  The better boxer that night i agree. He was winning on pts.

                  Penalosa is the better fighter because he kayoed him. No?
                  Not when youre being beaten so decisively, he landed the punch and won but up to that point, johnny had proven to be much better...

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                    as i said, **** happens, but gerry was definitly trying to hit to the body with the left all night, he landed the punch in the button and won the fight fair and square...gonzalez is clearly the better fighter, though...
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                    Not when youre being beaten so decisively, he landed the punch and won but up to that point, johnny had proven to be much better...

                    ok lets put it this way.

                    i agree that jhony was the better boxer that evening because he was winning on pts. BUT i say penalosa was the better fighter overall that evening because he was able to knock jhony out.

                    do you agree? or are you saying that jhony was the better fighter that night?

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                    • xcaret
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                      #50
                      IT WAS A LUCKY ****ING PUNCH

                      notice how its most of the pinoys that say it wasnt hahaha.. hilarious




                      When a fighter is losing and cant do **** and ends up winning by one single punch and to the BODY...thats what you call a lucky son of a *****, if it wasnt for that punch he would've lost easy cause Gonzalez had the fight in the bag.

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