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  • Ramamaiden
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    #31
    Originally posted by neils7147933
    Vazquez lost a fight earlier in the year. He's fighter of the year for pulling back to .500?
    yes, but look how vasque was considered before this two fights, and after this two fights. also his performance on both fights was amazing, specially the second when most people thought he was going to lose to marquez. he proved all people wrong, and in an amazing way.

    if you only care about his record by far,then jcc jr. should be fighter of the year :S.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Ramamaiden
      yes, but look how vasque was considered before this two fights, and after this two fights. also his performance on both fights was amazing, specially the second when most people thought he was going to lose to marquez. he proved all people wrong, and in an amazing way.

      if you only care about his record by far,then jcc jr. should be fighter of the year :S.
      Not solely on record, but if quitting in a fight gets you FOY, then it's been a really bad year

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ramamaiden
        yes, but look how vasque was considered before this two fights, and after this two fights. also his performance on both fights was amazing, specially the second when most people thought he was going to lose to marquez. he proved all people wrong, and in an amazing way.

        if you only care about his record by far,then jcc jr. should be fighter of the year :S.
        That may get him the award for upset of the year, but it's not going to be enough to get him fighter of the year. An underdog has to do some amazing **** to the Fighter of the Year. 2 recently that I can think of:

        2002: Vernon Forrest - Beat undefeated Shane Mosley twice.
        2005: Glen Johnson - KOd Roy Jones for his second loss, and then beat Antonio Tarver to get The Ring lightheavyweight belt.

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          #34
          Originally posted by neils7147933
          Not solely on record, but if quitting in a fight gets you FOY, then it's been a really bad year
          he couldnt breathe for most of the fight. for being able to last that long and against rafael marquez was pretty amazing imo.

          Originally posted by DWiens421
          That may get him the award for upset of the year, but it's not going to be enough to get him fighter of the year. An underdog has to do some amazing **** to the Fighter of the Year. 2 recently that I can think of:

          2002: Vernon Forrest - Beat undefeated Shane Mosley twice.
          2005: Glen Johnson - KOd Roy Jones for his second loss, and then beat Antonio Tarver to get The Ring lightheavyweight belt.
          i dont think vasquez is an underdog, i only think he was underrated.



          and btw, this poll is about the fighter of the year until now. and until now neither mayweather, cotto or pavlik deserves it yet. they still have to fight later this year, and if they dont do good performances, i dont think they would deserve to be foty.
          well, is just my opinion :P....i just think that vasquez fought great on both fights, and even though he lost the first one, that kind of performance you dont see it every day.

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            #35
            If the year stopped right thi second, no one has had a better year than Takefumi Sakata. Parra and Vasquez are considerably better wins than Pavlik or Cotto has picked up in real, if not hooplah, terms.

            That said, the winner of Hatton-Mayweather should be a lock at the end of the year barring a ****ty fight between the two. Cotto and Pavlik, if they win out the year, would then be the center of debate.

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              #36
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              I agree 100%. I think Marquez/Vazquez II is probably FOTY right now, but could EASILY be dethroned by Marquez/Vazquez III or Mayorga/Vargas. I only say easily because it only went 6 rounds, which is never a good prospect for a FOTY candidate.


              Marquez/Vasquez III won't happen this year, so it is out of the equation. That 6
              rounds you were talking about is probably worth more than the 3 so called "super" fights in the superwelter, middle and super middleweight division. I'll take
              that puny 6 rounds that Marquez and Vasquez gave any day...

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                #37
                Ridiculous statement. Pavlik-Taylor, Mosley-Cotto, and Kessler-Calzaghe are all incredible match-ups on paper and at least one, if not all, are likely to be incredible fights. Kessler-Calzaghe, barring a cut early, is almost can't miss as an action fight.

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                  #38
                  We can't compare fights that hasn't happen yet, or can we?
                  I was talking about the fights that was already fought, just like the Marquez/
                  Vasquez II. ODLH/PBF, BHop/Wright and Taylor/Spinks...

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                    #39
                    Hatton, he beat an old legend in decisive manner....yet, so did Mayweather so it's a close call.

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                    • pelonxsoldier28
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      Haha too much skill, definately can't be the fighter of the year, because he's just way too skillful! Uhhh, what?

                      It is too damn early to say who is the fighter of the year so far. Everyone has only fought 1 match (or at least one significant match). Mayweather beat De La Hoya, Cotto beat Judah, Hatton beat Castillo. Unfortunately, I think Cotto is out of the picture to be honest. He has a tremendous year that would likely have gotten fighter of the year most years (assuming he beats Mosley), but the Mayweather-Hatton showdown just seems to lock it up. Mayweather's win over De La Hoya is certainly more impressive than the Judah win, and by such a wide margin that I think a win over Mosley (by Cotto) wouldn't make up enough ground in comparison to a win over Hatton for Mayweather. If Hatton beats Mayweather, there isn't even argument to who is fighter of the year. The top challenger in his division and then the P4P #1? No one can beat that resume.

                      Taylor hasn't done ****, and yes I know it was a joke.
                      Pavlik's win over Miranda was good, but it's like a win over Mayorga... against a one-dimensional fighter. Even a win over Taylor won't be big enough for fighter of the year, because Taylor's stock has free fallen in the eyes of The Ring magazine. He went from 5th to off the list in the P4P rankings within a few weeks of the Spinks fight.
                      Marquez and Vazquez are both total studs... but guys who bat .500 on the year, with their only fights being wins and losses against one another isn't going to be enough to get fighter of the year (they will likely be given round of the year though for their third round of their second fight). I don't even think the winner of the rubber match (if it is in December) will be enough to put them over the top for this race.
                      yea that's right, too much skill and dancing/running ability is boring, that fight had too much skill and no moments of wow, dlh and pbf. both were to caucious. it was obvious pbf was too caucious, and vice versa with dlh. fight of the year? no chance, pbf fighter of the year? no chance, hype of the decade, strong chance. i don't hang from any fighters nutts, i'd rather say what i see, and that's in plain veiw.

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