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  • #41
    Originally posted by Tusc9969 View Post
    Let's quit bringing race and or ethnicity into the subject. I have plenty admiration and respect for fighters like Chavez sr, Sal Sanchez, Duran, Arguello, Gavilan ,Trinidad, Rivera..Benitez etc...
    There's no reason to HATE on latin fighters.
    That being said - Chavez jr needs to start challenging himself by fighting better opposition and enough with fighting cab drivers. Age? has nothing to do with it. Examples: Wilfred Benitez won his first Title at 17... Floyd Patterson won the WORLD Title at 21.. Tyson at 21, Vargas at 21, DeLahoya won two titles in two different divisions at 21 etc etc Those guys didn't ruin their careers by winning titles at an early age. Vargas ruined his career by taking on elite champions one after the other without taking tune up fights.
    But anyway, Age is not the case here and neither is him not fighting for titles. He can't fight for titles because quite frankly he doesn't look ready. Why?? He's not fighting decent enough good opponents to get him there.
    Chavez jr needs to be tested and challenged every once in awhlie.
    Chavez jr has been a professional now for two years going on three.
    For his own good, he needs to raise the level on the quality of oppostion he's fighting. Start fighting ex champs or up and coming prospects. There is where he will find the experience and the stripes he needs.
    Bums and Cab drivers are only good at first to get self confidence and some self recognition. He should be fighting guys like Alfonso Gomez, Pauli Malinaggi, Teddy Reid, Eduardo Snachez, and then Carlos Baldomir in the end before taking on the Big guys on top. It only took Paul Malignaggi 18 fights before he hit his first title fight and it only took Cotto 13 fights before his...Chavez jr already fought 33 guys and he's still not even ready. I don't blame Chavez jr..I blame his corner.
    It's not about age...yes your right but it is about money. That was a very naive post, making things out to be very simplistic and forgeting the business aspect of the game. Chavez Jr. handlers understand that one loss can not only kill this kids confidence at such an early age but postpone a big payday which is why every prospect is handled the way they are.

    The biggest obstacle facing Chavez Jr. is his name and fathers legacy. See, if he was just some "other" Mexican fighter, people might say, "Oh, he's pretty good and I would like to see what he can do in the future". Since he's the son of a legend, the scrutiny on him is immense. People instead say, "He's nothing like his father and only getting by on his father's name, he will never be like his father".

    It's almost a lose, lose situation for Chavez Jr. and it's a shame because the kid does have skills and I'm sure being brought up in that household, he doen't lack heart either. Only time will tell if he will turn out to be a good fighter, will he ever live up to what his father was? I doubt that ANYONE will.

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    • #42
      Hey u never know. By age 30 he might have close to 100 fights the rate he is going.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by niceguy45 View Post
        is not hate is just love, we don't want to see chavez jr laying on the canvas too soon due to lack of experience that's all dude, he is not ready yet
        Who are you to determine if he's ready or not? Are you a trainer or something?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!! View Post
          run i have to say your one of the few people on here who knows something about boxing. there is to much hating on mexican fighters. it dont make sense to hate on the son of a mexican legend because he is only 21 years old. people are talking now like malignagi has been beating great fighters for years and is p4p. he is only a step ahead of chavez.

          people dont see that chavez right now is making up for not having amateur experience. plus he is an action fighter who likes to punish the body. there are very few fighters who can do this well because mastering body shots is the hardest thing to do in all of boxing. let chavez get older and some more experience and he will be a future world champion.
          I agree with you all the way. I don't understand the hate either. I think its incredible for him to have the record he has at such a young age. He is an exciting fighter who goes in there and gives the fans their moneys worth. I mean what more do you need from a fighter.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
            It's not about age...yes your right but it is about money. That was a very naive post, making things out to be very simplistic and forgeting the business aspect of the game. Chavez Jr. handlers understand that one loss can not only kill this kids confidence at such an early age but postpone a big payday which is why every prospect is handled the way they are.

            The biggest obstacle facing Chavez Jr. is his name and fathers legacy. See, if he was just some "other" Mexican fighter, people might say, "Oh, he's pretty good and I would like to see what he can do in the future". Since he's the son of a legend, the scrutiny on him is immense. People instead say, "He's nothing like his father and only getting by on his father's name, he will never be like his father".

            It's almost a lose, lose situation for Chavez Jr. and it's a shame because the kid does have skills and I'm sure being brought up in that household, he doen't lack heart either. Only time will tell if he will turn out to be a good fighter, will he ever live up to what his father was? I doubt that ANYONE will.
            he may not get out of his fathers shadow but one day he will be a world champion. i dont think the hate will ever end though. even to this day we have people here who want to disrespect chavez sr. who is one of the greatest ever.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!! View Post
              he may not get out of his fathers shadow but one day he will be a world champion. i dont think the hate will ever end though. even to this day we have people here who want to disrespect chavez sr. who is one of the greatest ever.
              ya and everyone mexican is under appreciated right?
              lol at you

              especially margarito who fought "the best" when he fought rodney jones (11-2)

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              • #47
                Originally posted by passdabutter View Post
                ya and everyone mexican is under appreciated right?
                lol at you

                especially margarito who fought "the best" when he fought rodney jones (11-2)
                why are you always hating on mexican fighters?? do you hate that they made this the great sport it is today??

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                • #48
                  Fighting tomato cans or not, no one can deny he's got MASSIVE star potential.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!! View Post
                    why are you always hating on mexican fighters?? do you hate that they made this the great sport it is today??
                    when am i always hating on them

                    i am half mexican you dumass

                    and margarito is my favorite boxer i just think stuff you say is ridiculous

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!! View Post
                      run i have to say your one of the few people on here who knows something about boxing. there is to much hating on mexican fighters. it dont make sense to hate on the son of a mexican legend because he is only 21 years old. people are talking now like malignagi has been beating great fighters for years and is p4p. he is only a step ahead of chavez.

                      people dont see that chavez right now is making up for not having amateur experience. plus he is an action fighter who likes to punish the body. there are very few fighters who can do this well because mastering body shots is the hardest thing to do in all of boxing. let chavez get older and some more experience and he will be a future world champion.
                      Every time you post its viva mexico ****. We get it dude, you are mexican and like mexican fighters. You are painfully one dimentional. Run with knives does not know that much about boxing.

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